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To: freedomjusticeruleoflaw
What exactly has Trump said that is a dealbreaker for you?

Thanks for asking. I was actually on the fence about Trump for several months. You can check my posts to confirm. I was willing to forgive his past praise and support of Democrats because I thought that might have been an expediency to support his business ventures. I thought maybe he had turned the corner and his true conservative nature was coming out. I liked what he was saying about immigration, but a lot of conservatives have been saying the same thing, for a lot longer time than Trump. I thought Trump and Cruz had worked a deal where they wold fight together for the same things.

The deal breaker for me was the single weekend when Trump came out strong against Cruz and Scalia, using the leftist angle each time. This is when Cruz was leading the polls for the first time. It became clear that Trump was not an idealouge for smaller government and more individual freedom. At best he is a moderate, to the left of McCain and Romney. At worst, he is an opportunist who will do and say anything to win.

Then he came out for more NSA snooping ("I'm going to err on the side of safety") and for Kelo (Eminent Domain for crony capitalists, passed by the liberals in the Supreme Court), and in defense of McConnell, I knew I would never be able to support this man.

I would like to debate these issues with fellow conservatives without the name calling and the attempts at personal destruction. Ted Cruz is a good man who is fighting for the things I believe in. When Trump supporters resort to petty attacks on Cruz's name, appearance, wife, children, and Christian faith, I'm going to push back every time. Even if Trumps wins the presidency, I don't think he sees Cruz as a potential ally in the senate. That has me worried - a lot.

65 posted on 02/13/2016 7:44:04 AM PST by BigBobber
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To: BigBobber

IMHO, Trump and Cruz have already made a deal.


66 posted on 02/13/2016 7:46:36 AM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth.)
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To: BigBobber

Trump has the troublesome tendency to throw gratuitous mud, as you found out. And he should stop that, because otherwise people won’t know what he really opposes and what he’s just angry at today. It wasn’t for no reason that the studiedly equanimous George Washington was named the first president — he’d not jerk you around with his moods.

However sometimes we have to go with something that isn’t ideal, making allowances and reading between the lines, because something better is not at hand. I am cautiously sanguine about Trump, because I’ve seen him come down from his storms time and time again. Perhaps with some further experience he will learn to avoid carrying on that way, as even now he has announced that he is going to switch to positive ads. You’re surely not the other one who has been frightened by the Trump cannon when it seemed to have little or no reason to shoot, and Trump has surely heard about it.


68 posted on 02/13/2016 7:49:57 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: BigBobber

Good luck reasoning with the TRUMPBOTS. You’ll now be labeled a thug and told to “take a hike.” No discourse allowed, only mutual agreement on how awesome The Donald is may be spoken on this thread. My final post on the stupid bray threads.


70 posted on 02/13/2016 7:51:44 AM PST by subterfuge (TED CRUZ FOR POTUS!)
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To: BigBobber

not the ONLY one...


71 posted on 02/13/2016 7:51:59 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: BigBobber

Frankly you need to look at the bible too, to find out what the biggest issues are.

Sometimes the left does have valid points of view. Because the plan of God for mankind transcends the political.

Sometimes we have specialized in becoming selfish without a good explanation for it. Lacking a good explanation, some people with larger goals in mind are not going to be convinced.

The argument I would raise to someone like Trump about pan-snooping is that historically quite often the information DOES end up being leaked. If it were securely Trump’s information from now to eternity, that would be one matter. But hackers can make it everybody’s information. So, Trump should not snoop on anything he isn’t willing also to jealously guard.


74 posted on 02/13/2016 7:57:43 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: BigBobber

Well said.


89 posted on 02/13/2016 8:42:47 AM PST by Hoodat (Article 4, Section 4)
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