Posted on 02/11/2016 10:24:19 AM PST by dynoman
Proof in debate transcripts at link.
Dyno lied
Equivocation.
Again... what Cruz lies? There is nothing here except you posting BS that is 180 out from the truth.
It ALL matters.
It’s not about me. People want to make it about me to avoid the issue of Ted lying. It’s so transparent.
Face it: Ted lied - “principled” died.
Donald says: I support XYZ
Ted says: Donald supports SQT
Now you’ve got it straight.
Cruz misrepresents.
Huh? You brought up Jesus......I was just giving you what Trump said, not what I interpreted to say.
“I like to be good. I don’t like to have to ask for forgiveness. And I am good. I don’t do a lot of things that are bad. I try to do nothing that is bad.”
I’m not sure where you are going here but if you want to support a modern day diety like Trump, your call for sure.
So shall we go back to Cruz being a Canadian that takes sweetheart loans from GS and steal elections? That’s more fun.
Ted didn’t lie. You can keep saying but it doesn’t change the facts.
Has Ted made mistakes? yes have ALL politicians made mistakes? yes
Was Trump lying when he made his vows to his first wife? how about his second?
How about the business deals where he left people hanging?
I actually knew exactly what you meant. My last comment was for the benefit of others.
Sorry to disappoint you, but, yes they do believe it,and they should because it is true.
Ah, “context”, now I’m taking his own words out of context - even thought they’re represented entirely in context.
And when Trump says “The government will pay for it”, he still means you and me - the American taxpayer. So 75% of us get competitively-priced health insurance and STILL have to cover the costs of the remaining 25% of the population.
Just how does that differ from Obamacare?
A bunch of red herrings.
Nope,
Yes; “Christian Cruz” is a liar.
But, per the MSNBC focus group (evangelicals) this morning, their churches told them to vote for him — so they are. God help them if actual logical thoughts should pop into their heads.
The word 'conservative' used to mean something, but you have demonstrated that it means whatever anyone decided it means. It is like you have vertigo stuck on a beach of shifting sand.
“Are you really attractive?”
Woman faint when they see me.
This is the battle as I see it; illogical morons with their lips permanently fastened to government tits outnumber those of us who are paying for it all. That is a fact. Trump represents the only hope for getting enough crossover and independent votes to overcome those tit sucking parasites. Cruz simply will not pull in enough votes to do it. Trump is the only chance we have.
I will vote for whoever is the republican nominee but none but Trump stand a chance at winning this fall. The popularity of Sanders, and by default socialism, coupled with the fact the number of parasites outnumber those who make up the host proves that beyond any doubt in my mind.
Have you seen this?
Conservative vs Liberal, a history of terms and discussion.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3373783/posts
Read what Laz wrote here ->> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3372298/posts?page=85#85
BAIER: Gentlemen, the next series of questions deals with ObamaCare and the role of the federal government.
Mr. Trump, ObamaCare is one of the things you call a disaster.
TRUMP: A complete disaster, yes.
BAIER: Saying it needs to be repealed and replaced.
TRUMP: Correct.
BAIER: Now, 15 years ago, uncalled yourself a liberal on health care. You were for a single-payer system, a Canadian-style system.
Why were you for that then and why aren’t you for it now?
TRUMP: First of all, I’d like to just go back to one. In July of 2004, I came out strongly against the war with Iraq, because it was going to destabilize the Middle East. And I’m the only one on this stage that knew that and had the vision to say it. And that’s exactly what happened.
BAIER: But on ObamaCare…
TRUMP: And the Middle East became totally destabilized. So I just want to say.
As far as single payer, it works in Canada. It works incredibly well in Scotland. It could have worked in a different age, which is the age you’re talking about here.
What I’d like to see is a private system without the artificial lines around every state. I have a big company with thousands and thousands of employees. And if I’m negotiating in New York or in New Jersey or in California, I have like one bidder. Nobody can bid.
You know why?
Because the insurance companies are making a fortune because they have control of the politicians, of course, with the exception of the politicians on this stage.
But they have total control of the politicians. They’re making a fortune.
Get rid of the artificial lines and you will have…
My Question: What is this private system he is referring to? Is it one company? Or multiple companies? So his answer here might mean single payer or it might not.
2.)Cruz: At the very last debate, he said if you a republican voter don't support socialized medicine then you are heartless, then you want let people die in the streets.
HAM: In the Democratic primary, Hillary Clinton has criticized Bernie Sanders’ plan for single payer government health care, noting it would require big, across the board tax increases for Americans. In doing so, she’s doubling down on Obamacare, despite its persistent unpopularity.
Mr. Trump, you have said you want to appeal Obamacare. You have also said, quote, “Everybody’s got to be covered,” adding, quote, “The government’s going to pay for it.” Are you closer to Bernie Sanders’ vision for health care than Hillary Clinton’s?
TRUMP: I don’t think I am. I think I’m closer to common sense. We are going to repeal Obamacare.
(APPLAUSE)
TRUMP: We’re going to repeal Obamacare. We are going to replace Obamacare with something so much better. And there are so many examples of it. And I will tell you, part of the reason we have some people laughing, because you have insurance people that take care of everybody up here.
I am self-funded. The only one they’re not taking care of is me. We have our lines around each state. The insurance companies are getting rich on Obamacare. The insurance companies are getting rich on health care and health services and everything having to do with health. We are going to end that.
We’re going to take out the artificial boundaries, the artificial lines. We’re going to get a plan where people compete, free enterprise. They compete. So much better.
(APPLAUSE)
TRUMP: In addition to that, you have the health care savings plans, which are excellent. What I do say is, there will be a certain number of people that will be on the street dying and as a Republican, I don’t want that to happen. We’re going to take care of people that are dying on the street because there will be a group of people that are not going to be able to even think in terms of private or anything else and we’re going to take care of those people.
And I think everybody on this stage would have to agree...
(BELL RINGS)
... you’re not going to let people die, sitting in the middle of a street in any city in this country.
(APPLAUSE)
RADDATZ: Senator Cruz, to that point, Mr. Trump has said that your position on health care means that maybe you’ve got, quote, “no heart”. There is a question here, though, about uncovered folks. You suggested repealing and replacing Obamacare. As we learned with President Obama’s broken promise that everyone could keep their plan, any major plan — change in health care policy carries with it the risk that some people will lose their insurance coverage or have to change it.
How do you reassure that those people that repealing and replacing Obamacare is still in their best interest?
CRUZ: Well, let me take two different parts of that. Let me start with socialized medicine. Socialized medicine is a disaster. It does not work. If you look at the countries that have imposed socialized medicine, that have put the government in charge of providing medicine, what inevitably happens is rationing.
You have a scarcity of doctors. You have rationing. And that means the elderly are told, we’re going to ration a hip replacement, we’re going to ration a knee replacement. We’re going to ration end- of-life care.
We’re right now heading into a medical system with about a 90,000-doctor shortage in America and socialized medicine; whether proposed by the Democrats or proposed by a Republican would hurt the people of this country.
What should we do on health care? If I’m elected president, we will repeal every word of Obamacare.
(APPLAUSE)
CRUZ: And once we do that, we will adopt common sense reforms, number one, we’ll allow people to purchase health insurance across state lines that will drive down prices and expand the availability of low cost catastrophic insurance.CRUZ: We’ll expand health savings accounts; and we will de-link health insurance from employment so that you don’t lose your health insurance when you lose your job, and that way health insurance can be personal, portable and affordable and we keep government from getting in between us and our doctors.
Trump slightly modified his answer on healthcare from one debate to the next. Cruz paraphrased it all as one answer. And if you take everything Trump has said about this, it is more likely that he supports single payer system like canada has.
How many sleazy shaming letters has Trump mailed out? How many times have Trump operatives been telling voters Teddy just dropped out so vote Trump? Give me a break.
Do you have an idea how to make the 25% not paying for HC pay for it?
The rest of us are paying for them now.
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