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How Trump can quiet Rubio and Cruz with these three words...
dmztahoe

Posted on 02/10/2016 9:20:33 AM PST by dmzTahoe

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To: dp0622
why don’t you grow up and try to win an election and listen for once. I live in New York. There are no Democrats voting for Trump. They think he hates women and immigrants. And abortion. Cruz is beating Hillary by one point and Trump is losing by 2. Certainly trump can win but if he’s doing so well among Democrats why is he down by two. Get Wise. Without the Cruz voters Trump will lose in November. myself and a large number of Ted Support is congratulated you guys on the victory yesterday and still I read nonsensical threads bashing Ted Cruz. Post positive things about trunk or negative things about rhinos. Keep putting up the stupid threads about Cruz and I certainly will sit home in November as will a lot of Cruz supporters. is that petty? Yes. Is it human nature? Yes.

Perhaps it is because New York borders Canada that you seem to want to ignore the eligibility clause in our Constitution. From what I have learned through the years many New Yorkers have Canadian relatives.

Cruz is not eligible to be our President and a Cruz Presidency would set a disastrous precedent. Cruz may be a fine man but the next election or another in the future may have a candidate born in a nation that is not as friendly and as comfortable to us as Canada. It does seem a horrible circumstance of birth but life is not a bed of roses is it?

141 posted on 02/10/2016 11:57:08 AM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! Trump 2016 - and Dude, Cruz ain't bona fide either)
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To: dmzTahoe

Wish someone would ask Trump, “How many abortions have you financed and how many of those were your own blood?”
He has been so cocky over how many women he has had.
Next question, “How many conservative issues have you fought for before congress and how many did you win?”


142 posted on 02/10/2016 12:14:33 PM PST by Pure Country (�I�ve noticed that every person that is for abortion has already been born.� -Ronald)
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To: Spunky
I guess you know better then a lot of people, who is eligible or not. He HAS been deemed eligible.

Never!

Former Solicitor General Paul Clement,[146][147] former Acting Solicitor General Neal Katyal,[146][147] Professor Chin (see above),[142] Temple University Law School Professor Peter Spiro,[148] Professor Akhil Amar,[149] Georgetown University Law Center Professor Randy Barnett,[150] Yale Law School Professor Jack Balkin,[150] and University of San Diego Professor Michael Ramsey[150] believe Cruz meets the constitutional requirements to be eligible for the presidency. Similarly, Bryan Garner, the editor of Black's Law Dictionary, believes the U.S. Supreme Court would find Cruz to be eligible.[151]

Tribe, however, described Cruz's eligibility as "murky and unsettled".[152] Harvard Law Professor Cass Sunstein believes that Cruz is eligible, but agrees with Ramsey that Cruz's eligibility is not "an easy question". Sunstein believes concerns over standing and the political-question doctrine will prevent the courts from resolving issues surrounding Cruz's eligibility.[153]

Mary McManamon (see above) writing in the Catholic University Law Review[154] believes that Cruz is not eligible because he was not born in the United States.[155] Professor Elhauge,[156] Professor Clinton,[157] and University of Chicago Professor Eric Posner[158] agree with McManamon that Cruz is not eligible. Alan Grayson, a Democratic Member of Congress from Florida, does not believe Cruz is a natural-born citizen, and stated he intends to file a lawsuit should Cruz be the Republican nominee.[159] Orly Taitz, Larry Klayman, and Mario Apuzzo, who each filed multiple lawsuits challenging Obama's eligibility, have also asserted that Cruz is not eligible.[160][161]

Cruz's eligibility has been questioned by some of his primary opponents, including Donald Trump,[162] Mike Huckabee, Rick Santorum, Carly Fiorina, and Rand Paul.[163] Marco Rubio, however, believes Cruz is eligible.[164]

This is from Wikipedia with footnotes to document facts. Not settled is it?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born-citizen_clause

I used wikipedia because it consolidates sources. That is not a full list.

143 posted on 02/10/2016 12:14:36 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! Trump 2016 - and Dude, Cruz ain't bona fide either)
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To: Calpublican

Read up on Cruz. Universally disliked by his former a nd present colleagues. In favor of cutting our seniors Social Security.


144 posted on 02/10/2016 12:16:39 PM PST by patriot08 (5th generation Texan ...(girl type))
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To: Calpublican

You’d “rather be a loser”? And “Some folks have standards”?

And some of those “folks” have no idea what will happen to the women and girls of their families if illegal immigration and Muslim influx isn’t stopped. Cruz is not committed to securing the borders.


145 posted on 02/10/2016 12:22:41 PM PST by MayflowerMadam (Romans 8:38-39)
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To: dp0622

You just proved my point the vitriol

I doubt many Cruz folks sit home in November but be my guest


146 posted on 02/10/2016 12:26:30 PM PST by wardaddy (Boy the nasties are sure out in force here.....I hope someone is saving this)
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To: higgmeister

My bad. I should have said some of the states Board of Elections has deemed him eligible.


147 posted on 02/10/2016 12:26:44 PM PST by Spunky
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To: justlittleoleme

“She stood her ground.”

That’s a noble way to say that she tried to extort more money from Trump by continuing to up the asking price. He finally walked away. So she “stood her ground” so well that she screwed her family out of a sale price that he would have paid at more than twice its value.

She kept the house. Children sold it at a pitiful cost. I’ll bet they’re glad she “stood her ground”.


148 posted on 02/10/2016 12:26:51 PM PST by MayflowerMadam (Romans 8:38-39)
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To: montag813

And these people can’t understand how/why Trump won. Exit polling indicated that almost 70% of voters are against Muslims coming into the U.S. “Immigration” isn’t limited to Mexicans; it includes Muslims as well. Trump is the only one adamant about stopping this. Rubio and Cruz support it.


149 posted on 02/10/2016 12:31:25 PM PST by MayflowerMadam (Romans 8:38-39)
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To: higgmeister
"He might have been a good President if he had been eligible."

Let me ask you this. Would you vote for him if ALL the Board of Elections of every state find him eligible or only if it goes to the Supreme Court? And what if it never goes before the Supreme Court?

150 posted on 02/10/2016 12:32:41 PM PST by Spunky
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To: GodGunsGuts

Interesting rant. we will see what we will see when we see what we see ...


151 posted on 02/10/2016 12:38:33 PM PST by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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To: moehoward

I’m not disputing that, I’m simply pointing out that the premise is a no sequitur and that if Trump wins and doesn’t have the support of majorities he will be just as effective as Rubio or Cruz, unless he rules by fiat, which I believe he condemned bammy for.


152 posted on 02/10/2016 12:45:02 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Mastador1
"unless he rules by fiat, which I believe he condemned bammy for."

A good portion of what he's running on will be up to him alone to perform. EO and EM reversal for starters.

153 posted on 02/10/2016 4:03:42 PM PST by moehoward
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To: Spunky
Let me ask you this. Would you vote for him if ALL the Board of Elections of every state find him eligible or only if it goes to the Supreme Court? And what if it never goes before the Supreme Court?

I could only vote for him if the matter was truly settled by the Supreme Court or legislation through congress.

I would suggest Ted Cruz end his campaign and work in the Senate on legislation that will decide the matter once and for all.

I would even agree with a clarified definition of natural birth to parents, one being an American citizen, born anywhere in the Western Hemisphere with the logic that the USA took on a unilateral protection of any nation in the Americas under "The Monroe Doctrine." This interpretation would have effectively accepted almost all of the Presidents and candidates that had eligibility issues in the past. Sorry Arnold, still not you.

The Bill that Ted Cruz might author could also clarify the intent of the 14th Amendment to eliminate the possibility of anchor babies going forward. Even as a new Constitutional Amendment that would probably pass ratification in record time.

lol Then Ted Cruz could run again with no questions and a "yuge" accomplishment on his c.v.

154 posted on 02/10/2016 7:11:44 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! Trump 2016 - and Dude, Cruz ain't bona fide either)
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To: dp0622

I have family members in Virginia and California who usually vote Dem, who are Trump supporters. It’s anecdotal I know, but I thought I’d share that. I’ve heard similar stories about disillusioned Dems or Dem-leaning independents who plan to vote for Trump from a couple dozen people (either talking about themselves or people they know, usually because of the immigration issue, his anti-establishment/political corruption stance, or his anti-PC, tough talk). I have yet to personally find even one independent (much less a Dem) who supports Ted Cruz.

Cruz is my second choice still but I don’t really know if he can even win all of Romney’s states. Running up very high percentages in solidly red states isn’t going to win him the election, and that’s something that scares me about a possible Cruz nomination. Compare that for example with the Michigan poll from a couple of weeks ago that showed Trump easily beating Hillary in that state. It’s the states that matter after all, and Trump can appeal to the people in more states with his populist, pro-US manufacturing, “fair trade,” etc. positions. This in addition to his strong support of the coal industry may bring PA into the red column too (but I do agree that NY is a long shot for any Republican presidential candidate, including Trump).


155 posted on 02/11/2016 3:18:09 AM PST by FenwickBabbitt
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