Posted on 02/09/2016 8:53:30 AM PST by wagglebee
CONCORD, New Hampshire, February 8, 2016 (LifeSiteNews) – Does Donald Trump support the gay agenda or oppose it? On the eve of the New Hampshire primary, observers are still scratching their heads about where the GOP frontrunner actually stands.
Trump has repeatedly and consistently said he supports the natural definition of marriage, but can a President Trump be relied on to promote it resolutely and cogently? It is this question that has many marriage activists expressing concern about his increasingly likely hold on the GOP nomination.
In fact, the National Organization for Marriage has gone so far as to say that Trump has “abandoned” the pro-marriage cause.
Trump himself underscored the problem on the weekend when he told a New Hampshire television station that from the White House he would push “equality” for homosexuals even further forward.
A cable news reporter self-identifying as a lesbian asked him last Thursday after a rally in Exeter, "When President Trump is in office, can we look for more forward motion on equality for gays and lesbians?"
“Well, you can and look - again, we're going to bring people together. That's your thing, and other people have their thing,” Trump told Sue O’Connell of New England Cable News. “We have to bring all people together. And if we don't, we're not gonna have a country anymore. It's gonna be a total mess.”
Following the comments, Trump appeared Sunday on ABC’s This Week program with George Stephanopoulos and would not commit to appointing Supreme Court justices who’d overturn Obergefell, though that would be his “preference.”
“We’re going to look at judges. They’ve got to be great judges. They’ve got to be conservative judges. We’re going to see how they stand depending on what their views are. But that would be my preference,” he told Stephanopoulos. “I would prefer that they stand against, but we’ll see what happens. It depends on the judge.”
Trump’s comments follow his statements during a Fox News Sunday interview last week, when he said, “If I'm elected, I would be very strong on putting certain judges on the bench that I think maybe could change things, but they've got a long way to go.”
“[Marriage] should be a states rights issue,” Trump continued. “I can see changes coming down the line, frankly.”
When asked by Fox if he “might try to appoint justices to overrule the decision on same-sex marriage,” Trump replied, “I would strongly consider that, yes.”
The real estate mogul criticized the Supreme Court for the Obergefell decision imposing homosexual “marriage” on all 50 states last June, but then later in August, Trump voiced support to NBC News for banning companies from firing employees on the basis of sexual orientation. “I don't think it should be a reason” to fire workers, he said at the time on Meet the Press.
The National Organization for Marriage (NOM) and a number influential evangelicals have endorsed Senator Ted Cruz in the race for president. The Texas senator has not only committed to appointing pro-marriage justices, but says the president and the states can rightly defy the “fundamentally illegitimate” ruling just as President Lincoln defied the Dred Scott decision.
NOM has also been highly critical of Trump, saying he has “abandoned” their cause. The organization said in its January 27 blog post just prior to the Iowa Caucus that “Donald Trump does not support a constitutional amendment to restore marriage to our laws. Worse, he has publicly abandoned the fight for marriage. When the US Supreme Court issued their illegitimate ruling redefining marriage, Trump promptly threw in the towel with these comments on MSNBC: ‘You have to go with it. The decision's been made, and that is the law of the land.’”
NOM had said the week before that Trump “has made no commitments to fight for marriage, or the rights of supporters of marriage to not be discriminated against and punished for refusing to go along with the lie that is same-sex 'marriage.'”
New Hampshire voters have been tracked as showing support for homosexual “marriage,” as a poll last February showed 52 percent of Republican NH primary voters saying opposing gay “marriage” is unacceptable.
The latest CNN/WMUR tracking poll shows that overall 33 percent of likely Republican primary voters support Trump, giving him a growing 17-point lead over the nearest GOP contender. RealClearPolitics polling average in the state puts him at 31.0 percent support, with Marco Rubio second at 14.7, John Kasich third at 13.2, and Ted Cruz fourth at 12.7.
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The polling has consistently shown that only Cruz can beat a Democrat.
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Very true. Trump did not say that at all.
Er... you realize that the person to whom you responded was trying to defend TRUMP, and not CRUZ, right?
He diverted and blended it into his call for everyone to work together.
Something we both agree with, by the way. We don’t advocate putting them on welfare and telling them to stay inside their homes out of sight.
At least they should be pulling their own weight.
Funny, when Cruz sidesteps the "gotcha" questions, the Trumpkins all scream about how it shows he is just another politician, will not give a straight answer, is oily, slimy, a snake, etc. But when Trump does, he is BRILLIANT, cunning, wise, etc...
[Marriage] should be a states rights issue, Trump continued. I can see changes coming down the line, frankly.
When asked by Fox if he might try to appoint justices to overrule the decision on same-sex marriage, Trump replied, I would strongly consider that, yes.
Looks like he said quite a bit to me...
Doesn’t matter, even if Trump was for full-on gay marriage. And this video convinces me absolutely none anyways.
I wish it did matter. But it doesn’t. We’re stuck with this shit until we have the nerve and the will to overthrow judicial tyrants. In the meantime, the battle must be fought locally.
We learned from the "Canadian Cruz" dustup that Donald thinks Lefty Lawrence Tribe, of "living breathing constitution" fame, is a go-to guy on constitutional issues.
“In 2003, while Cruz was Texas Solicitor General, the Texas Attorney General’s office declined to defend Texas’ sodomy law in Lawrence v. Texas, where the U.S. Supreme Court decided that state laws banning homosexual sex as illegal sodomy were unconstitutional.”
Ted Cruz worked for then Attorney General Greg Abbott.
Abbott ultimately makes the call as the boss, Cruz did not “punt”.
When he was asked that, it was about his demeanor. How he talks and says things.
I would hope he would “act” differently when elected President.
Context is key
Didn’t you get the memo?
“It’s always rough and tumble during election season. You have to check your ethos at the door along with decorum, civility and just plain old good manners. Winning is the only thing that matters.”
What doesn’t matter apparently, is the long term fallout on FR from this. Everyone is just supposed to forget all of the personal insults and attempts at character assassination during this period and move on like nothing ever happened.
I thought polls are wrong, now they are right again?
The cruzers need to pick a side and stick with it for more than a day
Trump obviously believes that promising a wall will get him elected.
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Yep...and the extremely gullible amonst us believe him because they SO WANT WHAT HE SAYS TO BE THE TRUTH. IMHO, there is a strong likelihood that he’s conning us all.
Donald TRUMP (PRAISE BE HIS NAME) = TROJAN HORSE
TRUMP = TROJAN HORSE
Being POTUS means that you need to pick a side on some very difficult issues and know that a large segment of the country is going to disagree with you no matter what. If you aren't prepared to take a stand, you aren't up to the job.
Presidents who actually accomplish something, good or bad, are decisive. Reagan was decisive and won the Cold War. LBJ was decisive with the Great Society, it has been destroying our country ever since, but he knew what he wanted and didn't care who stood in his way. There is more to running the United States than just knowing how to make money.
And judging from the attitudes of a number of FReepers, he may just be right...
Yes, my post was an agreement to what Mechanicos posted.
The polling also says Trump’s going to win all these primaries. Can’t necessarily depend on the polls.
What is Trump’s motives to “just get elected”?
That is the question that no one can answer
Now if his motives were to get elected, build the wall, fix trade, secure the country and kill ISIS. Would put him down in the history books as one of the best presidents in modern times. I would agree with that statement. And I will say that is his motivation. He likes to win, he likes success, and he likes to build big things, why would his presidency be any different?
Trump is a statesman, something we haven’t seen in many decades.
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