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To: Kolokotronis
I'm from North Dakota. We may only be the second largest oil producing state, but we don't tell anyone but our most dire enemies to freeze. Most of us knew people who froze to death. I knew two, and one who came ridiculously close.

The high cost of energy which funded your areas devastated mine. Now you get just a taste of what your people did to mine! So don’t worry, I’ll be spending my “’newfound’ wealth” right here at home!

Well I'm glad you'll be spending it at home.

We didn't devastate anyone's economy. We don't set the price of oil, that's done on bid. We buy petroleum products, too, and it isn't any cheaper here, likely more expensive.

What we did do is find a hell of a lot more of it.

I've been doing that for 36 years, so I doubt it hurt you one way or another for me to make a decent living.

If you are using heating oil, you are probably in the Northeast, maybe even New York where hydraulic fracturing is outlawed. Who hurts what, there?

The price will spike again, because of stupid policy. Not because we're devastating anything, but because traders in New York bid it up. We're the ones who found enough supply to alleviate the crunch, you stupid ingrate.

52 posted on 02/09/2016 4:41:39 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

“If you are using heating oil, you are probably in the Northeast, maybe even New York where hydraulic fracturing is outlawed. Who hurts what, there?”

Nope, much further north. In our first house, to avoid using oil (because we couldn’t afford it) in the mid ‘70s and early ‘80s we cut, split, stacked and burned ten cords of wood a winter. Our friends did the same. When we moved to the family house, we went to oil. In the winter of 2007-2008 we burned 2300 gallons of oil and we were cold. That spring we switched to local wood pellets and last winter burned 11 tons of them. I unloaded every single bag from my old F150 into the cellar and lugged every bag up the cellar stairs and through the house to the pellet stove, in the dead of winter, five bags a day. And we were pretty warm, providing work for our forest products industry up here but it wasn’t easy for any of us. I’ll be 65 years old this year and have lived here in Maine my whole life and for every winter as long as I can remember back, two or more people, almost always old people, have frozen to death.

We survived without your oil; the cost of oil killed people up here while you guys got rich. It killed much of our industry. It drove up the price of electricity and put more employers out of business. But if the price goes up again, we’ll survive again. No sympathy at all up here for you guys...no more than the oil industry ever showed us!


57 posted on 02/09/2016 7:37:38 AM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen and you, O death, are annihilated!)
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