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People Have A 'Fundamental Right' To Own Assault Weapons, Court Rules
Huff Post ^ | 02/04/2016 | Cristian Farias

Posted on 02/06/2016 8:32:39 AM PST by Wildbill22

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To: lepton

I would argue that the definition of what is a ‘battle rifle’ is quite arbitrary to the times and the needs. The M-1 Garand was the best rifle of WW2 by many accounts. That standard is not what is considered the best today. A different set of ‘needs’ is desired, resulting in the M-4 or civilian AR-15, or AK.

It isn’t up to anyone but the individual what their ‘needs’ are. If I don’t harm anyone unjustly with what I consider my ‘needs’, then constitutionally nobody can define those needs.


121 posted on 02/06/2016 11:58:03 PM PST by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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To: Wildbill22

I would hope that the editors and many writers of the Huffington Post WOULD HAVE aneurisms, strokes, heart attacks, gallstone attacks, hemorrhoids, and sterility.

At one time the HuffPost was a readable place of liberal and leftist stuff. Today it has moved even further Left and is now a place of Marxist crap.

Poor little rich Arianne. You could have been a contender. How you’re just JV.


122 posted on 02/06/2016 11:58:53 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

While I don’t believe in abortion, while it is still legal I would hope liberals would abort themselves out of existence. At least SOME good would come from that tragedy.


123 posted on 02/07/2016 12:36:21 AM PST by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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To: Wildbill22

Shall not be infringed. The left squeals and blows a gasket every time a state wants voter ID laws. The Democrats argue that it places an undue burden on the poor even with provisions for free ID. I think that every law abiding citizen should be free to keep and bear arms without any taxes or fees. Especially any type or style of weapon that is used by law enforcement. Taxes, fees, Assault Weapon bans all infringe upon the rights of the people. It would be nice if a court would rule in a similar manner and actually find that fees and special taxes are unlawful.


124 posted on 02/07/2016 3:08:21 AM PST by BOBWADE (RINOs suck)
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To: Wildbill22

“In our view, Maryland law implicates the core protection of the Second Amendment — the right of law-abiding responsible citizens to use arms in defense of hearth and home,” Chief Judge William Traxler wrote in the divided ruling.

Well if that’s the case then Chief Judge William Traxler is
an idiot and has no idea what the true meaning on the
second amendment is. I’m sure foreign invasion and keeping
the government in check never entered his mind.


125 posted on 02/07/2016 3:10:23 AM PST by Slambat
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To: sagar

Precsely. ALL “weapons” should be legalized.

The founding fathers specifically used the word “arms” for a reason.
They knew there would be advances in technology with new
weapons. Their definition of arms was anything one man
can carry.

The right to bare arms is the right of the people to
protect themselves from foreign invasion and their own government.


126 posted on 02/07/2016 3:19:23 AM PST by Slambat
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To: xzins
If it goes, trigger-bang, trigger-bang, trigger-bang, and can't go trigger-bang,bang,bang,bang,bang,bang,..., then it's not a military assault rifle.

Really? One major aspect of the training of an infantry squad during the Vietnam era was keeping most of the men firing semi-auto, rather than full auto. One man in each 4 man fireteam was designated as the "automatic rifleman". The other three fired semi-auto. I NEVER fired full auto during combat in Vietnam. It doesn't take long to expend all your ammo if you're firing full auto. Then what are you going to do?

The M-16 fires ammunition at a rate of 700=950 rounds per minute. I carried 500 rounds. We once went well over a week without resupply. Ran out of food. I was down to 120 rounds, which I shared with buddies who were out of ammo. Full auto ain't all it's cracked up to be when you are running low on ammo!

"Sergeant York, was one of the most decorated soldiers of the United States Army in World War I. He received the Medal of Honor for leading an attack on a German machine gun nest, taking 32 machine guns, killing at least 20 German soldiers, and capturing 132 others.

During the assault, six German soldiers in a trench near York charged him with fixed bayonets. York had fired all the rounds in his M1917 Enfield (bolt action) rifle, but drew his .45 Colt (semi)automatic pistol and shot all six soldiers before they could reach him."

I'd say that Sgt. York's actions fall under the classification of "military assault." His rifle was "trigger-bang-work the bolt-trigger-bang", the other was "trigger-bang, trigger-bang, trigger-bang".

127 posted on 02/07/2016 5:52:47 AM PST by BwanaNdege
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To: The Nerve

The Courts were never GIVEN this much power. Like all things govt, they usurped. With no push-back (just HOW many judges have been removed from the bench since our Founding?...Maybe hands and feet??), they presumed more powers than authority granted.

Lastly, (no offense ahead of time), I loathe the term ‘allowed to keep our Rights’. Rights are inalienable. Govt can merely suppress. We the People are the FINAL arbiters of what and what is not Constitutional, for w/out We there IS no govt.

Black robed oligarchs is correct. Unfortunately, I have heard little in their election season to suggest it will change anytime soon.


128 posted on 02/07/2016 6:11:41 AM PST by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: Wildbill22

The definition has little to nothing to do with “needs” under the 2nd Amendment, nor my comment.

The military had a definition for a battle rifle, and the “assault rifles” we’re too puny to meet those needs, especially lacking in range, and power...which is the exact opposite of the impression most people have.

Most people have this silly idea - from the name - that “assault weapons” are big powerful weapons, and that “military rounds” are especially powerful and damaging, when the opposite is true: they fall into the lower end of hunting rifles (large varmint), in many states are not considered powerful enough to humanely kill deer and thus not legal to hunt deer with for that reason, and the military rounds they use are jacketed in order to limit fragmentation compared to typical hunting rounds.


129 posted on 02/07/2016 7:20:31 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Charles Martel

That case was heard by the USSC without any opposing arguments. Miller had disappeared and his lawyer could not afford the cost of printing the appeal. Flawed from the start. Relates to the NFA of 1934 which is another “piece of work”.


130 posted on 02/07/2016 7:21:38 AM PST by vortec94
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To: vortec94

Yeah...the Court found that trench guns (shotguns) had no known military application. Layers of stupid.


131 posted on 02/07/2016 7:57:32 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton

I have had an AR-15 for years now, my favorite rifle, hence my interest in the subject.

I agree with you in saying the 2nd amendment has nothing to do with “needs”.

My point with the issue of “Needs” is that nobody and no government has a right to define my “needs”.

When someone says “what do you need that for” or “you don’t need that” the only response from a freedom loving individual is “mind your own business”. Or perhaps I might point out what exactly their real needs are, which is one meal a day and a 9 by 9 cell and a bucket to crap in. Liberal/socialist/Marxist consequence of equality at the lowest common denominator.

Freedom is to define your needs wants and dreams. And you don’t have to justify anything to anyone as long as you don’t infringe on anyone else’s constitutional rights.


132 posted on 02/07/2016 8:18:38 AM PST by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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To: lepton

Agreed.

The NFA and lots of other gun laws are equally unconstitutional.


133 posted on 02/07/2016 8:23:13 AM PST by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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To: Wildbill22

That’s fine. We were answering different questions...and yeah, that “needs” argument people use is reprehensible - especially when third -parties are attempting to apply it.


134 posted on 02/07/2016 8:23:23 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Wildbill22

Exactly. I have a fundamental right to a rifle that’s short and quiet too.


135 posted on 02/07/2016 8:27:37 AM PST by The Toll
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To: BeauBo
I have wondered about that as well. I wonder if the modern modern equivalent might be "a well trained militia", "an organized and disciplined militia", or "a highly ready response force" might be closer to what they meant, rather than the modern connotation of regulations as restrictions or limitations. I guess that minutemen were the model of the day.

But the amendment simply acknowledged the need for and desirability of having a militia; it said nothing about restricting arms to members thereof.

136 posted on 02/07/2016 10:12:49 AM PST by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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To: Wildbill22
When someone says "what do you need that for" or "you don't need that" the only response from a freedom loving individual is "mind your own business".

In New Jersey to obtain a carry permit (which in itself is an infringement) you are required to prove a need. Unless you are "connected" the proof of need is never sufficient.

137 posted on 02/07/2016 10:22:19 AM PST by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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To: PrairieLady2
Hats off to the 4th circuit, once again!

Bit Ditto!

138 posted on 02/07/2016 10:37:14 AM PST by Mr Apple ( NO TO SAME SEX MARRIAGE)
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To: mylife

WTF is an assault weapon?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Ask Joe Biden, he is into shot guns.


139 posted on 02/07/2016 12:48:47 PM PST by Candor7 ( Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Wildbill22

bkmk


140 posted on 02/07/2016 2:50:43 PM PST by AllAmericanGirl44
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