Posted on 02/05/2016 9:02:41 AM PST by Lera
And no, the USA forgot the “leading” part (show a man that we have given a fish, how to fish) and thought itself virtuous with the “driving” part (just starve him till he somehow miraculously gets the idea, let’s not concern ourselves as to how).
That left a huge gap. Human nature is craving to see it filled, and why not? God created it.
Stalin was the Nationalist. In fact most Russians don’t even see him as a Communist, but more like an “Ivan the Terrible”, a Czar who was ruthless, but effective.
Yep. “Democratic Socialist” de-fangs the argument because the cretins think they can always vote them out if things aren’t going well.
They should study Maduro’s rear-guard actions in Venezuela.
It has zero to do with socialism, which is based on hatred and abolition of the family, the complete opposite of God who is love and family.
And no, God does not insist on total dependence on Him or else no work would occur; hence the command to “work out your salvation with fear and trembling” in Philippians 2:12.
Communism is indeed good - for the elites. I once was having a discussion with someone who thought communism/socialism was better than our system. When I pointed out all the problems in the past century with it and all the millions of people slaughtered as a result, his response was that “it just hasn’t been done right yet”. When I pointed out that if communists came to power in the US he might be killed, he was unfazed. You see, everything would be fine because he expected to be one of the elites. No concern for the masses who could be slaughtered because they opposed a totalitarian takeover.
This happened quite a few years ago before I thought it was even possible for American citizens to vote in communists/socialists under the umbrella of the Democrat party.
Your using socialistic propaganda is not going to work. The USA’s ideal is family-based society (which is the only real society), where nobody “starve(s) until he somehow miraculously gets the idea” because knowledge is passed down from parents to children. Socialism is for abolition of the family, where nobody “gets” anything that the state does not want them to get due to total slavery thereunto.
People with your mindset most unfortunately misread that phrase. Philippians is a book of joy and the exhortation is to appreciate how awesome the salvation work of God is. As a pastor I very dearly respect put it, God works it in, and then we work it out. I would add, that the more we appreciate it, the more we will work it out. It is as a burning in the bones, to use another biblical metaphor.
Total dependence on God means a total motivation to work in the way that God works. You are still thinking half worldly.
And yes socialism has everything to do with it. Socialism is a lie applied to the original principle. Bring back the original principle and the desire for the lie fades away and disappears. The prodigal is eating pig pods because he has no proper food.
Your mis-take on the principle, I boldly posit, is heavily pride based. You would “work out your salvation with fear and trembling” lest you go to the ignominy of hell.
Look at reality now. Look how faith has dropped the ball. You see the opening for socialism. I have only described it. I have not advocated it. We can’t just put our fingers in our ears when our enemies speak and go la la la la, we can’t hear you... because the reason that lies get traction can point out truths that are very unflattering to us. Our enemies can in that sense educate us.
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Yes, they do suck but to 99% of the people socialism = Denmark. Tony Blair, who got a standing ovation by the W. Bush era GOP congress is a socialist - leader of the Labour party. So to most people in the USA socialism is what they have in Sweden or Finland. Not exactly North Korea.
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One death is a tragedy; one million is a statistic.
Joseph Stalin
That bespeaks the state-proud mindset that helps socialism burgeon.
Long ago having given up tenderness of heart, we don’t see this as a million tragedies.
And there are other incarnations of state pride as well. Just to give a caution to folks like O-H. Once you have one kind of state pride, it’s easier to morph into another.
We say à la guerre comme à la guerre; we do not promise any freedom nor any democracy.Such thinking has as much to do with the principle of helping others as Christ has a concord with Belial.
Friedrich Engels
We must hate. Hatred is the basis of communism. Children must be taught to hate their parents if they are not communist.
Lenin
Except that (and I am sure you're aware) once a country goes down the Socialism/Communism path, it is very hard to get back to the ways of freedom. It usually requires a bloody civil war or coup to get it done, and those in power will fight like mad and throw everything they have at the people in order to retain that power.
I am sure that both Clinton and Sanders would act accordingly.
That ship sailed a long time ago.
Faith has not dropped the ball; lack of faith has, hence the intrusion of satanic counterfeits for the umpteenth time in man’s history. Jesus didn’t ask if He’d find faith when He comes again in vain.
We're not yet at a state of being like, say, Cuba, or Ceausescu's Romania, or Venezuela. As long as the people still have the right to say what they want, and do what they want (within reason) without 'State Security' showing up at 2am and busting your door in, I believe there's still a chance to get things back the way they are supposed to be.
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