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Vanity: The State of Dis-Union
2/3/2016 | Kush

Posted on 02/03/2016 6:31:45 PM PST by Kush

My fellow Freepers, I would like to ask a few minutes of your time tonight. I have been a member of Free Republic for almost 18 years now, and in all that time, I have never felt the need to do a vanity post. Truth be told, I don't care much for them, and I never thought that what I had to say was worth all that much bandwidth. But after the last 6 months of coming here and watching the circus that this place has become, I have decided that tonight is the night I step off the perch and get down in the weeds. It's funny sometimes what can set a person off, and this is what did it to me this evening. In the grand scheme of things, a one sentence comment on a previous post doesn't really amount to much, but I feel this comment is endemic of what has been going on here recently. Indulge me if you will.

To bring you up to speed, here is the original post.

Greta lets Trump Smear Cruz Directly without Greta Stating that CNN Announced Carson Exit

And this would be the comment in question

To: mitchell001

Cruz got busted now he is acting all psycho. Very sad.

31 posted on 2/3/2016, 7:24:03 PM by patq [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies | Report Abuse]

After reading this comment, something inside me finally snapped, and I decided the time for silence was over. So I penned a reply to this user, and was about to post it, when I thought, if I reply just to him (or her), what I had to say would end up buried in a post that had probably reached it's useful end. IOW, who would really see this? Probably only the one I posted it too, and that would just kick off a flame war with this one user. And you know what they say about arguing with a fool. But I felt that this message should be see by as many freepers as possible, because, all hubris aside, I felt it got to the heart of what has been so wrong about this site as of late. So I present my answer to patq in full, and I hope it resonates beyond my own furtive mind.

To: patq

Cruz got busted now he is acting all psycho. Very sad.

No, actually what is sad is all you johnny-come-latelys that have been infecting this site with these fifth grade antics of late. In case you haven't noticed, this is not twitter, instagram, or the comments section of yahoo. This is Free Republic, the greatest conservative site in the sorry history of the internet. Just ask Dan Rather. And what your ilk is turning it into is a crying shame. You and your fellow travelers are making this place unbearable with all your childish attacks. Acting psycho, really? Is that what you bring to the table? I can get better insight from talking to a 4 year old.

It is not hyperbole to state that this is going to be the most important election in my lifetime, probably top 3 in the history of the Republic, and I and many others on this site have to wade through these oceans of bullshit flame wars to try and find the substantive arguments over who would be the best possible candidate to guide this country out of the Obama wilderness.

Is Trump your guy? Great, tell me why you think that his sudden appearance as a rock solid conservative, despite 30 years of evidence to the contrary, is to be trusted.

Is Cruz your guy (obviously not in your case)? Great, tell me how someone so disliked by the hierarchy of his own party can make his presidency work.

You like Rubio? Fantastic, now make the case for why a guy who stabbed his supporters in the back on amnesty now deserves our trust.

You see where I'm going with this? These are adult issues, deserving of an adult conversation. Leave the playground taunts where they belong, on the playground. And stop wrecking what was, is, and will always be the preeminent site for conservative thought and discussion on the world wide web. Oh yeah, and have a nice day.

Kush


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To: Kush

The shenanigans come from both sides of the aisle and from varying join dates all the way back to ‘98. It is politics, let the candidates fight it out, don’t fight it out on here.


21 posted on 02/03/2016 6:51:21 PM PST by PJBankard (It is the spirit of the men who leads that gains the victory. - Gen. George Patton)
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To: Kush
Is Cruz your guy (obviously not in your case)? Great, tell me how someone so disliked by the hierarchy of his own party can make his presidency work.

I do believe Cruz will undo all the Obama executive orders. I trust that Cruz will not be persuaded to go along with bad immigration bills, more government involvement in healthcare and he will work for the citizens more than the DC elite. I think Cruz will insist on a balanced budget.

There are conservatives in office that Cruz currently works with and they have a small voice at this time, I believe their voices would be strengthened if Cruz were the president.

I am also hopeful that some of the GOPe will be ousted in 2016. I don't think Cruz is perfect but of all that we have to choose from, I see Cruz as the best choice.

I also don't see it as such a bad thing if not much gets done, that is much better than what has been done to us over the last 7 years.

22 posted on 02/03/2016 6:53:18 PM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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To: Kush

You have the heart of a crusader and the demeanor of a gentleman.


23 posted on 02/03/2016 6:53:20 PM PST by sergeantdave ( If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: B4Ranch

What concerns me is that so many people have picked their “guy” that if he doesn’t get the nomination they will “-absolutely not vote for the nominee” even though anyone on our side (with the possible exception of Jeb Bush) would be a vast improvement over the past seven years we have been stuck with this current nightmare of an abomination!


24 posted on 02/03/2016 6:54:01 PM PST by princess leah
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To: Paladin2
Jump off the porch and run (w)ith the Big Dogs...

Dogs are known to have fleas, rabies, and an unhealthy tendency to know their relatives in a biblical sense. I'll pass...

Kush

25 posted on 02/03/2016 6:54:03 PM PST by Kush (Insert your own witty, patriotic, or sarcastic remark here.)
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To: bolobaby

....”since Trump showed up on the scene”.....

It seems like whatever Trump unleashed across this nation has crept in everywhere....people saying things they wouldn’t have before and pounding on others.....I even do that because I’m sick and tired of the pounding Cruz has been getting here so I hit back when I’m up for it.....otherwise I play with their sorry butts.

Trump isn’t the problem...it’s what he’s unleashed....where neither the media nor other politicians demand him to be civil instead we get the same old filth and sorry insults out of his mouth...he has no class at all...and worse he’s convinced so many it’s acceptable!

So I won’t flame you and am at the point where I don’t care if people get angry with what I post...too bad ...I had to wade thru their stuff and I figured it was time to stand.


26 posted on 02/03/2016 6:54:26 PM PST by caww
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To: Kush

I originally was here in 1998. Ive been banned a few times thru out the years. Things get passionate. But like you said ...never like this. I was banned for less then the bullshit bickering now.

This site is really sucking shit lately. Its not fun nor intelligent.

Its Daily Show stupid now.


27 posted on 02/03/2016 6:54:42 PM PST by DeathBeforeDishonor1
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To: Kush

I don’t think your post will stop the madness, but it’s a start. Thanks for your thoughtful post. It definitely gave us all something to think about.

All the best—GGG


28 posted on 02/03/2016 6:55:43 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: Kush

I could not agree with you more. Thanks for “stepping off the the perch”. There is something sideways going on here lately and it is rather disturbing. I have come here for years to see what fellow conservatives were talking and thinking about. It was always my first stop in the morning. But, lately it’s not been a good way to start the day.


29 posted on 02/03/2016 6:55:45 PM PST by usnadad
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To: Kush; nathanbedford; ru4liberty; Aquamarine; 1rudeboy

Hear, hear! It was a recurring theme for me and others earlier today...Reasoned Discourse. Let’s have at it!

Thanks for shining a spotlight on the gravity of all this.


30 posted on 02/03/2016 6:55:59 PM PST by yeff (Yuor biran has teh alibtiy to mkae oderr out of caohs)
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To: Kush

I think We’d be better off to let a pack of Labs pick the next POTUS. H-> wouldn’t have a chance.


31 posted on 02/03/2016 6:57:24 PM PST by Paladin2 (w)
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To: sergeantdave
Thank you for one of the greatest compliments I have ever received in my time on this spinning rock.

Kush

32 posted on 02/03/2016 6:57:41 PM PST by Kush (Insert your own witty, patriotic, or sarcastic remark here.)
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To: Delta 21

Problem is, a few of the more obnoxious ones are from the Class of ‘98


33 posted on 02/03/2016 6:59:24 PM PST by digger48
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To: Kush

All of the dogs I know have no fleas, no rabies and have no access to their near relatives. Are you a muzzie?


34 posted on 02/03/2016 7:00:04 PM PST by Paladin2 (w)
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To: Kush

Well said.


35 posted on 02/03/2016 7:00:16 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Kush

All of the dogs I know have no fleas, no rabies and have no access to their near relatives. Are you a muzzie?


36 posted on 02/03/2016 7:00:21 PM PST by Paladin2 (w)
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To: Paladin2
I think We'd be better off to let a pack of Labs pick the next POTUS. H-> wouldn't have a chance.

There are some things even a dog wouldn't eat.

Kush

37 posted on 02/03/2016 7:01:41 PM PST by Kush (Insert your own witty, patriotic, or sarcastic remark here.)
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To: Kush

Bravo!


38 posted on 02/03/2016 7:01:48 PM PST by CJ Wolf
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To: digger48

Yeah, yer stuck with us.


39 posted on 02/03/2016 7:01:53 PM PST by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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To: corbe
...”I really feel heartbreak sometimes for my once united Freeper Community.”....

That's how I felt....so i tried to be reasonable and found that a total fruitless effort...then I simply backed off when the vocabulary used was so raw and insulting even when there was no reason to do so....they didn't need a reason.....it felt like FR was being trashed because it was.

It's one thing to be passionate....I get that...it's another to spew vile insulting nasty and swearing remarks like a river out there.

Even so if it continues to be like this I simply can't stay until the air clears down the road.....I want this Primary over yesterday just so FR is back again.

40 posted on 02/03/2016 7:03:52 PM PST by caww
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