Posted on 02/03/2016 6:07:42 PM PST by springwater13
This was reported tonight on MSNBC. PPP Poll conducted Tuesday and Wednesday after the debate.
The last PPP poll in December had Trump 34 Cruz 18 and Rubio 13. It looks like the soft Trump supporters went to Rubio, similar to what happened in the Iowa caucus. There is very little bump for Cruz.
(Excerpt) Read more at twitter.com ...
In this Poll:
Trump -9
Cruz +3
Rubio +8
Your guy is dropping.
My guy is rising.
GOPe guy is surging.
I ask the Trumpsters again,
Are you willing to allow Rubio to rise,
Or are you ready to support an actual Conservative?
So the media purposely flaunting Rubios 3rd place finish as a victory in their desperate attempt to have an establishment candidate win has absolutely nothing to do with this? Come on...we do ourselves a great disservice being so shallow in our thinking.
Or a Candian, Cuban stand-off.
Well, if Cruz were to drop out, Trump would focus solely on Rubio and squash him like a bug. Ready?
Sessions is running? Your Tricky Dicky Cruz is not what I call a Nationalist.
Cruz has a national ground game and stable temperament. Trump has neither. I don’t think Trump could even handle losing a couple more states, whereas Cruz can and will soldier on till there is no further chance of victory.
Also Trump is not a conservative, Cruz is. Trump’s support is mostly personality driven, another couple trumpertantrums and people may view him radically differently which would drive down his poll numbers. Heck, at this point I am not even sure Trump could stand a slew of national polls that didn’t show him leading.
Find a poll that was actually all the way complete...not just halfway and report back your findings.
He’s a Cubanadian.
Cruz has shown himself to be nothing more than what we were hoping him not to be. You discount the fact that Trump hardly spent any time in Iowa, has never run a campaign before, and finished 2nd in a state who’s demographics is definitely not in his wheelhouse. There is only 1 delegate difference.
Trump is the only candidate running, who has been successful in a very challenging business and has used that success for more good than any other candidates, perhaps with the exception of the candidates who are doctors. Trump’s position on other issues are fair game and should be attacked, rightfully so, but if it were not for not for Trump entering this race and correctly voicing the issue of illegal immigration, porous borders, neglecting immigration law and feckless, incompetent leadership for the last 30 years, we’d be wondering who Jeb Bush would be picking for VP right now.
Trump will roll through NH, SC and on through the SEC states. If Cruz is fortunate enough to hold off Rubio’s media and GOPe assisted rise, he may be able to make his last stand in Texas...perhaps at the Alamo?
Cruze dropping out?
Please post that one in Breaking News.
I'll be "Ready".
Cruz will be lucky to come in third next week.
Sure thing.
Can you find any other "all the way complete" post Iowa polls that have a different result?
Could very well be.
Interested in what you would say if it was:
1. Rubio
2. Christie
3. Cruz
Care to comment?
You mean Ted Cruz, the guy who opposed ethanol subsidies in Iowa when it was considered political suicide to do so? And he won doing it? That Ted Cruz?
And Trump on that issue? All in on ethanol subsidies. Who's the conservative again?
but if it were not for not for Trump entering this race and correctly voicing the issue of illegal immigration, porous borders, neglecting immigration law and feckless, incompetent leadership for the last 30 years, we’d be wondering who Jeb Bush would be picking for VP right now.
Trump has said some good things, no doubt. The problem is he is saying them now when he's had the very opposite positions in the recent past. Trump has made it clear he wears whatever hat is necessary to get what he wants. You do know that not EVERY rich businessman pours money into Democrat coffers like "the Donald". There are some principled conservative business folks who just don't do that. Trump is either not a conservative, or not particularly principled. I believe both to be true, but I've no doubt about the former. Trump is just not a conservative, has no conservative track record and is not steeped in conservative thought.
Trump will roll through NH, SC and on through the SEC states.
Perhaps, we won't have to wait long to find out. He should win NH since he had a big lead, but my guess is that gap will close. I never believed Trump will be the nominee and that holds true still. I think he is too erratic and volatile to even remain in the race if he isn't winning every state. He just can't stand being viewed as a loser, even for a week.
You talking to me?
Was this in a talking point e-mail today for all of Trump's supporters? I've been hearing this excuse all day, and it's nonsense.
Since June 16th, when Trump officially entered the race, Trump spent 29 days in Iowa. Cruz spent 40. There were 230 days from June 16th to February 1st. So Trump spent 12.6% of his days there and Cruz spent 17.4% of his days there.
Hardly the perception that Trump barely went there and Cruz spent all of his time there.
Then there is the sleight of hand that Trump wasn't supposed to do well in Iowa. Do you think we would forget that Trump has been number one in polling in Iowa since July? There was a three week period in October/November where he fell behind Carson and then December and the early part of January where he was a few points behind Cruz, but he had been the frontrunner for almost six solid months.
Do you think we would really just forget the truth just because you really want us to believe the lies?
I don’t see Trump dropping out of the top 3 in NH. He starts with too big a lead and has a somewhat narrow but loyal following that can’t be swayed no matter what.
I think there is a chance, albeit still a small one, that Rubio winds up winning NH with Trump coming in 2nd again and Cruz or perhaps Christie coming in 3rd. NH is probably just not going to be a great state for Cruz, but he should do well in SC. The thing to watch in NH is if Rubio can beat Trump. That would be 2 second place finishes for Trump which for most candidates would be pretty solid, but for “the Donald” would be considered losses. With no wins he will have reached a point that it would be hard for him to endlessly tout polls anymore - which is half his shtick (creating the aura of inevitability). I really don’t know if Trump could even stand to be in a race he wasn’t winning almost all these state contests.
“Socially moderate” means babykiller and “gay””marriage” supporter. Thanks, but no thanks to whomever the “social moderates” support.
It looks like Trump has a very weak team around him - no one capable of giving him sound, independent counsel. Trump's wife and grown children also appear incapable of standing up against Trump's knee-jerk reactions. Everyone in Trump's family seems very, very weak.
As to the education factor, Rubio and Cruz are attorneys whose law degrees are at a level of doctorate, without foreign language requirements. Trump has at least a Bacheor's Degree from the quite Ivy League Wharton School of Finance at Penn, probably the finest school of finance in the nation. Cruz graduated Princeton undergrad and Harvard Law (generally considered the finest law school especially if we ignore the special case of Obozo). Rubio's education was more modest as to institutions at which he studied. His immigrant dad was a bartender, his immigrant mom changed sheets at Motel 6 as a maid. Is it a crime to be poor? If you were his parents, would you be proud of him? I would and I would be proud of either of the other two as well if education and profession are the standard.
You apparently don't like Cruz or his style. No one says you have to like either. What I have heard from Cruz does not sound like he is talking down to anyone but opinions are like, ummmm, noses and everyone has one.
The ultimate Establishment GOP elitist banker David Rockefeller recently said that we don't need more thinkers only more workers. That translates into an open expression of desire for the demise of the middle class and a desire for the cheapest of labor.
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