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Trump's Disregard for Private Property
Townhall.com ^ | February 3, 2016 | Star Parker

Posted on 02/03/2016 6:08:39 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: digger48

You’re right. It’s rather like the “Cruz’s wife works for Goldman Sachs” posts isn’t it.


61 posted on 02/03/2016 6:48:41 AM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: Reagan Disciple

Dunno about touch back, this sounds like queue back.


62 posted on 02/03/2016 6:49:03 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: xzins

I’ll be generous and say he might well want to do it.

But to get it to happen with a restive Democrat segment in Congress, he will have to horse-trade.

If he can’t even horse-trade with We The People, how can he with Democrat filibusterers and the like?


63 posted on 02/03/2016 6:50:30 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: ManHunter

She could have a bias for Goldman Sachs, but there are worse concerns like her paper about a globalist agenda. Goldman Sachs, meh. Globalism, EEEEEK!


64 posted on 02/03/2016 6:51:39 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Reagan Disciple

Your absolutely right that I care about the invasion of this country over some lawyers nitpicking the edges of the constitutional authority on eminent domain.

One threatens us NOW. It is happening NOW! We’re being flooded with terrorists from the middle east NOW!

And in response we gaze at hypothetical cases in law about minutiae of eminent domain law.

Puhleeese.

That’s arguing over your kid’s college rejection notice while your house is burning.


65 posted on 02/03/2016 6:51:58 AM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Reagan Disciple

Your absolutely right that I care about the invasion of this country over some lawyers nitpicking the edges of the constitutional authority on eminent domain.

One threatens us NOW. It is happening NOW! We’re being flooded with terrorists from the middle east NOW!

And in response we gaze at hypothetical cases in law about minutiae of eminent domain law.

Puhleeese.

That’s arguing over your kid’s college rejection notice while your house is burning.


66 posted on 02/03/2016 6:51:59 AM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

There is no horse trading necessary.

He can implement fully e-verify.

He can build the wall.

He can deport.

It’s ALL already law.


67 posted on 02/03/2016 6:53:11 AM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Kaslin

It is amazing that posters on a conservative website have decided to minimize the importance of private property rights in order to advance the political interests of a specific candidate in a Republican nominating process. The distinction between public and private is perhaps the most fundamental principle that distinguishes American conservatism, yet many now seem willing to set it aside in the short-term focus of the moment.

This distinction is why we have Freedom of Religion, why we believe in low tax rates, and even why we have the Second Amendment; all because public and private are two separate things.

The proper use of Eminent Domain requires that a compelling public interest be served by some alternate disposition of private property, and that public interest is greater than the property owner’s right to deny the public access to the property. This clearly is the case for the Keystone pipeline or for highways or other public projects such as hospitals. It clearly was not the case in the Kelo decision or for Vera Coking’s home.

If the Kelo decision and the attempted condemnation of Coking’s home are acceptable, what uses of Eminent Domain would not be acceptable? If I can’t be secure in my own property when a developer claims his ownership of it will increase tax revenue or when a real estate investor argues that his parking lot will look nicer than my small home, then when can I be secure in my own property? Is there any reason that government can’t force me to give up what I own?

Trump’s argument that Eminent Domain authority must be unlimited or else we can’t build Keystone is simply absurd. If the public interest truly justifies this kind of taking, then it also justifies arbitrarily high tax rates and even confiscation of guns, as soon as someone decides that the result is in the public interest. These are not ideas that conservatives have traditionally supported.

But now conservatives support this because Trump says so? Forced agreement with every detail of a philosophy or person is simply Political Correctness. You can agree with Trump on a majority of positions and support his candidacy without agreeing with him on everything. This is why many argue that Trump’s supporters have fallen into worship of an idol.


68 posted on 02/03/2016 6:53:29 AM PST by HoustonSam
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To: xzins

We need to take a middle road, finding out how sincere and capable Trump is. And letting him know that yes, We The People intend to hold his feet to the fire.


69 posted on 02/03/2016 6:53:34 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: elhombrelibre
And that's a way of pointing out that there are legitimate uses for eminent domain and there are self-serving ones that do nothing for general public. Trump's use was for Trump. It was an abuse of what can be a useful legal tool.

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Eminent domain is how the Keystone pipepline will be built and it is not a govt run highway program but a private for profit enterprise to the benefit of Canada - Cruz's homeland. Trump's version spews out casino chips and the other oil - but other than that no difference.

70 posted on 02/03/2016 6:53:42 AM PST by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said.)
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To: xzins

And there are laws that never get paid to happen. Not so simple.


71 posted on 02/03/2016 6:54:21 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: IMR 4350; Helicondelta
Pipelines are necessary for the national defense, what part of that are you too dumb to understand?

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The oil pipeline is for export out of New Orleans. So maybe it is vital for China's national defense.

72 posted on 02/03/2016 6:55:12 AM PST by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said.)
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To: HoustonSam

We would be quite wise to have anti-waste provisions and fair-impact compensation that includes why the person lives at that place (e.g. to make a job possible).

Real property itself ultimately is Caesar’s. We only get to invest in it and live there while in Caesar’s good graces. All we have to do is not pay the taxes on it to find this out.


73 posted on 02/03/2016 6:58:07 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: xzins

I agree, xzins. This and our jobs are number 1 to me. These are Trump’s signatures issues.

Trump WILL build that wall; the rest of the field - doubtful. It will be business as usual.


74 posted on 02/03/2016 7:00:43 AM PST by Girlene
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To: ManHunter

Yes it is.

Gets a bit tiresome


75 posted on 02/03/2016 7:01:18 AM PST by digger48
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To: HiTech RedNeck

What paper are you referring to? I’m not trying to be a smartass; I’d really like to read it.

As for a bias, that may be, but no more than Trump and others who own a lot of shares in Goldman stock.


76 posted on 02/03/2016 7:02:25 AM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: Trumpinator

So you believe the oil or finished product refined from the oil must be exported.

Explains why you’re a Trump voter.


77 posted on 02/03/2016 7:04:20 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: Helicondelta
Without eminent domain there is no keystone pipeline.

Vital infrastructure (such as roads, bridges, pipelines, etc.) = Public use

Limousine parking lot = NOT public use

78 posted on 02/03/2016 7:09:03 AM PST by dem bums
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To: xzins
We have middle eastern fighting age men flooding into our country, and Trump wants to protect our property and our sovereignty and our lives from all of that.

And yet, he is still happy to use the government to steal YOUR property if it will make him a dime.

You've put the blinders on as well, my FRiend?
79 posted on 02/03/2016 7:10:53 AM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: IMR 4350
So you believe the oil or finished product refined from the oil must be exported.

Explains why you’re a Trump voter.

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No, I won't say idiot or stuff like that because maybe I was not clear and you misunderstood. I want the oil to stay in the USA to lower domestic oil prices and overseas dependency (though Canada is another country) but the keystone pipeline is being built to export oil out of New Orleans - which I don't like and therefore to claim the pipeline is essential for national defense is bogus since the oil is being exported. In any case the claim eminent domain is OK for a private enterprise like the Keystone pipeline that benefits a foreign country but Trump applying that to a what amounted to a crack house across from his casino is wrong is bizarre. Trump offered up to 6 times market value and was turned down and eventually built around it. Now the house can't be given away and is a blight on the community full of resident crack heads.

80 posted on 02/03/2016 7:11:39 AM PST by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said.)
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