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To: diamond6

Really which Presidents weren’t natural born? You can exclude the founding fathers and anyone who was a citizen of the US at the time of the signing of the Constitution. They are eligible via the Constitution. Please name two.


204 posted on 02/02/2016 6:29:47 PM PST by PJBankard (It is the spirit of the men who leads that gains the victory. - Gen. George Patton)
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To: PJBankard
Two Presidents that come quickly to mind are Chester Arthur, who became President in 1881, born in Dunham Quebec, and Barack Obama had only one citizen parent. Someone should do an exhaustive study of all the Presidents (and Vice Presidents) and party nominees. I'll bet some interesting stories might emerge. International travel was far less common in earlier days, someone crossing the Atlantic with his family in tow and then returning would have been quite bizarre. Now it happens all the time. There are literally tens of thousands of such births every year, a good portion of the to US military families. The term is not clear in English common law, can sometimes mean natural born "by blood," other times "by soil."

So the courts may some day sort it out. With widespread travel and foreign assignments so prevalent, I'd be shocked if any court didn't take a fairly broad approach. To do otherwise, they'd have to go back to "original intent," which was to keep British loyalists from bringing their progeny, setting a stooge in the White House and re-taking America (as they almost did in the War of 1812).

262 posted on 02/02/2016 7:07:25 PM PST by cookcounty ("I was a Democrat until I learned to count" --Maine Gov. Paul LePage)
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