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To: Neu Pragmatist
Same questions as #75 but substitute the late Irving Kristol;

Jeanne Kirkpatrick;

Norman Podhoretz;

Gertrude Himmelfarb;

Midge Decter;

Robert Bork;

Same questions as #75 except the following abandoned the Demonrat left without becoming actually Republican:

Daniel Patrick Moynihan;

Martin Diamond;

Alexander Bickel;

Jaroslav Pelikan. That is a short list. I can add more names in both categories.

Final question for extra credit or extra ignominy:

For the conservative movement, which Democrat's foreign policy views do you prefer be adopted: Henry Scoop Jackson or George McGovern and why?

Answers to such questions will garner a LOT more respect for you than will throwing insults. I am what many paleos would call a neo-con. I reject that label. I am a CONSERVATIVE. I have never been an outstanding New York City Jewish intellectual nor a close friend of any, just a blue collar working class Catholic kid by birth and upbringing who benefited from a Jesuit prep school education sooooooo long ago that the Jebbies were still Catholics. Along the way, I had the privilege of becoming acquainted with Bill Buckley, Bill Rusher, Robert Bork, John Bolton, Phyllis Schlafly, John Chamberlain, Frank and Elsie Meyer, John Ashbrook and a lot of other folks you have heard of. I also know Tom Fleming, Chris Check and others at Rockford Institute on the paleo side and their less paleo rivals across the driveway at the Howard Institute as well.

I enjoy Pat Buchanan's books and writing while often disagreeing with my fellow Jesuit prep school alumnus. He was NEVER a movement conservative. He came in through the St. Louis Globe Democrat newspaper, and his long association with the decidedly non-conservative Richard Milhous Nixon, then worked for Reagan in the White House and then became an eccentric. His last great effort was a failed but noble attempt to pin the tail on GHWB, globalist extraordinaire.

As to our enemies, as a nation, we can stick our heads in the sand until they slaughter us, we can send caviar gobbling diployakkers to sell us down the river to our enemies but what a swell party it is, or we can be interventionists, kick their asses, shutter Foggy Bottom, and get each conflict the hell over with. That last one is called interventionism and also CONSERVATISM.

76 posted on 01/30/2016 8:52:19 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline: Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society/Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: BlackElk

Not sure what you mean about insults .. I try to keep my discourse respectful , and I would advise against confusing aggressive advocacy for my preferred candidate with boorish behavior.
For you to attempt to equate Neo-con with Conservatism is a misnomer at best .. i’m not sure why you want to debate the merits of each individual Neo-con listed , but the constraints of time prohibit me from such an endeavor at this current juncture . I will be more than happy to engage you in a spirited debate regarding this topic in the near future .

In that list , I must say I respect John Bolton regarding domestic policy , but in the foreign policy realm , his aggressive interventionist tendencies have given me great pause.

Regarding your question , I prefer Jackson, as he had the right edge at the right time . The times have changed and the cold war is over . We have shifted from a cold war policy of détente , to a policy of antagonistic interventionism . Our current policy towards the R-Fed is a perfect example of this . Do you disagree ?


77 posted on 01/30/2016 9:40:41 PM PST by Neu Pragmatist (Trump is the only one who will secure our borders . Vote Trump)
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