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LIVE THREAD Donald Trump VETERANS Rally in Des Moines, Iowa Airing Jan 28 9:00pm EST on C-SPAN
http://www.c-span.org/video/?403832-1/donald-trump-campaign-rally-des-moines-iowa ^ | 1/28/2016 | Nikos1121

Posted on 01/28/2016 4:13:23 AM PST by nikos1121

I’m not really sure what will happen tonight. I truly hope that Donald Trump will keep his word and follow through on his decision to not attend the debate and hold a separate forum in Des Moines, but who knows. For now, C-Span says they will cover it.

Sometimes it’s best to walk away from a bad deal and not look back. It’s another opportunity for Trump to “teach us.” I guess we’ll see. Hopefully we won’t get whipsawed all day long and that the Des Moines rally is on and FR people here will participate.

It seems pretty clear to me that Trump was tipped off about an unformatted ambush with other activist questioners, (who may not even be Americans), with their own agendas. Did they intend to pull a Jorge Ramos on him to disrupt—maybe to get him to walk off the stage or say something regrettable?

Whose idea was it in the first place to have these people ask questions? This is the kind of maneuver we’d expect from a more left wing station, not Fox, but we’ve sure learned something this past year, haven’t we about this network, and the people we’ve allowed in our homes day in and day out?

And who wrote that chicken bleep press release that mocked Trump with references to our enemies? Was it Ailes himself? I sense the good people like Jeanine Pirro and Brett Bair are pretty embarrassed this morning. They should all be.

The Fox network intent, as I see it, is more ominous and thinly cloaked and perhaps about other things. Megyn Kelly’s objective was to make her the center of attention over the candidates and her colleagues, but already Rupert Murdoch voices his desire to have Michael Bloomberg enter the race, and we’re hearing of some backdoor dealings of his, and Fox, that favors illegal immigration. I guess we will see what is fact and what is fiction eventually.

Make no mistake, immigration, legal and illegal over the past 25 years, has altered the cultural and political trajectory of our country. Who can say if this is good or bad? It really depends on who you are. I worry that ultimately it will affect our freedoms.

Ted Kennedy and other passive politicians from both sides, and presidents have got the politics wrong about immigration. It used to be that immigrants coming here from wherever, and their offspring proudly said they were “Americans” first. Now, I’m not so sure.

Was that the political intent? To ultimately change the complexion of our nation and endanger our freedoms by pitting us against one another, and to have people coming here not to assimilate with us, but to defy us?

This will all pass, just like it did in 1980 when Ronald Reagan chose not to debate George Bush before the Iowa caucus, and maybe, before it does, it will turn the Iowa caucus on its ear with a surprise winner. I think all of us have seen through the rallies that Iowans are a special brand of people.

Those Iowans, that “usually get out and vote”, are a microcosm of the people we used to be, before John Kennedy was killed. They usually vote in the end for “the person who appears to have the best heart.” I think it’s Trump, they might think it’s Carson. I only hope that they do not take his refusal to debate as a personal affront to them.

All of our candidates are true patriots. Any one of them could lead our country better than the people who have led us these past eight, maybe 24 years. Whomever wins the nomination should have our support.

I pray that God gives each of these people the wisdom to do what is best for the people of our country. Can Fox say that the organization and spirit of their debate had that same intent? I truly doubt it.


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To: firebrand
I loathe Rand and his father Ron.

Neither of them are fiscally "conservative"; they just like to make that claim.

Yes, this audience was packed with various bused in supporter groups.

I live in the Tri-State area and have quite a few friends who live in Jersey, so I know ALL Christie. I won't EVER vote for him!

Thanks for your summary. :-)

1,581 posted on 01/28/2016 11:32:04 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Publius

***** “Santorum may just be the guy needed to clean up the VA” *****

That was exactly what I was thinking when he was speaking... I think in that area he may be a better choice than Carson, Either would be awesome but Carson has a Gift that shouldn’t be squandered on a skill set he has proven to be bad at.

Carson is Inspiration, Carson is Healing

JMHO


1,582 posted on 01/28/2016 11:32:09 PM PST by TexasTransplant (Idiocracy used to just be a Movie... Live every day as your last...one day you will be right)
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To: firebrand

I saw the play long ago, but still remember it well. :-)


1,583 posted on 01/28/2016 11:33:02 PM PST by nopardons
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To: TexasTransplant

Oh come on......Carson may be a “nice” man....maybe, and a good surgeon, but he doesn’t belong ANYWHERE even near government!


1,584 posted on 01/28/2016 11:34:42 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Jane Long
I post FACTS !

Yes, the Cruzes donated less than 1% of their income, last year.

Texas has NO state income tax, so he saves on that. His kids are little, so even IF they both go to an ELITE private school, it doesn't cost as much as middle and high school does. I have no idea what their debts are, but it seems to me that that's an awfully LOW amount of money to donate.

1,585 posted on 01/28/2016 11:39:42 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

Most of my family lives there and I did too once upon a time. They dislike him because there are union members (mostly teachers) in the family. He has very recently reversed some of his deplorable lack of respect for the Second Amendment, and of course he reversed on immigration when Ann sent him her book. I don’t think he can ever quite reverse his pro-Muslim impression but he’s giving it a real good try.

He was the original nervy guy and I like that in a person.


1,586 posted on 01/28/2016 11:47:15 PM PST by firebrand
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To: Rome2000

**** “John Wayne!!!!!!” ****

Born on the 4th of july, I had to give you a cool name


1,587 posted on 01/28/2016 11:51:54 PM PST by TexasTransplant (Idiocracy used to just be a Movie... Live every day as your last...one day you will be right)
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To: firebrand
Christie is just a 20th rate Giuliani. ;^)

I liked it when he stood up to the teachers' unions, but aside from that, he has been a LOUSY governor.

1,588 posted on 01/28/2016 11:54:55 PM PST by nopardons
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To: TexasTransplant

If I may add... his last name is Walding.

See: John Wayne Walding. 3rd SF GRP Shok Valley Afghanistan


1,589 posted on 01/29/2016 12:03:08 AM PST by freepersup (Patrolling the waters off Free Republic one dhow at a time.)
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To: nopardons

Pretty much what I was saying, it isn’t what he is good at and Govt isn’t the answer to 99% of anything but it can blaze or lay a path to get out of the way of Carson and the many Americans like him.


1,590 posted on 01/29/2016 12:14:18 AM PST by TexasTransplant (Idiocracy used to just be a Movie... Live every day as your last...one day you will be right)
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To: TexasTransplant
I'm not sure that I understand your post.

Carson should be teaching his skills to new surgeons, or something like that. As the old saying goes: Cobbler stick to your last.

OTOH.....Trump should have gone into politics and I'm glad that he has.

1,591 posted on 01/29/2016 12:29:58 AM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

He was left with a colossal mess by the Dems.

Then he had to govern with a Dem legislature.

I agree that he’s not Giuliani. No one is. Rudy is a true original, can’t be put in any category. Also brilliant and eloquent. I used to have a collection of his quotes.

“A screwdriver isn’t a lethal weapon? How would you like to have one of those in your brain?” And others. All my favorites.


1,592 posted on 01/29/2016 12:53:06 AM PST by firebrand
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To: nopardons

By the way, I realized when I got to Facebook that I missed the first segment of the “debate.” The part where Cruz does his Trump imitation and tells all the other candidates they are fat and stupid. That looked like a real setup by Megyn: she asked him to address the fact that the elephant in the room was missing. In other words, let’s get our hate fix out of the way.

Cruz, of course, missed his chance to be genuinely funny and get a shot at another career.


1,593 posted on 01/29/2016 12:58:34 AM PST by firebrand
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To: nopardons

**** “Carson should be teaching his skills to new surgeons, or something like that. As the old saying goes: Cobbler stick to your last.” ****

28 years in Uniform, 4 specialties or areas of expertise (and none were Brain Surgery) More than half of those 28 years the job was Leadership (the specialties became secondary... relegated to a part time Instructor when needed) Still had to be the BEST but it wasn’t the Main Job.

Carson can Heal more than Human Bodies a LOT MORE and some things don’t need healing, they just need to be fixed or identified, classified and dismissed as Failed PC Garbage to be remembered only when we study Post PC History.


1,594 posted on 01/29/2016 1:08:25 AM PST by TexasTransplant (Idiocracy used to just be a Movie... Live every day as your last...one day you will be right)
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To: firebrand
Teddy LOVES doing "impressions", which he STINKS ON ICE, at. And his Trump one was THE worst one of his I have EVER seen!

I've only seen bits and pieces of the "debate", but I suggest that you and everyone else go read the Daily Mail article about Cruz and that slattern BLOODY KELLY And the "debate"!

1,595 posted on 01/29/2016 1:13:38 AM PST by nopardons
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To: TexasTransplant
I wasn't talking about YOU; I was talking about Dr. Ben.

Frankly, I don't seen ANYTHING that Carson is qualified to do in any government roles, nor do I see him as "HEALING" anything whatsoever, outside of an operating room.

Thank you for your service!

1,596 posted on 01/29/2016 1:17:45 AM PST by nopardons
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To: kiryandil

Gonna do some wall building 😜


1,597 posted on 01/29/2016 1:18:36 AM PST by onona (Check your shark at the door)
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To: freepersup

bttt


1,598 posted on 01/29/2016 2:01:34 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a Simple Manner for a Happy Life :o)
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To: TigerClaws

LOL. Sort of like how “he accepted their resignation.”


1,599 posted on 01/29/2016 2:21:31 AM PST by RKBA Democrat (Liberals LOVE Open Carry!)
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To: Karl Spooner

Did you do that gif? It’s great and captures the Cruz campaign to a T:

....send money. Whatever you can send. Send money. Do it now. Send money.


1,600 posted on 01/29/2016 2:27:06 AM PST by RKBA Democrat (Liberals LOVE Open Carry!)
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