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To: Bob434

how are the militants in the wrong

There are two different "eyewitness" accounts of what happened that are very different. You may choose to belief the one in the post you referenced. I choose to believe neither until more information and evidence becomes available (if it ever does).

My point was that both "sides" in this standoff have made mistakes and neither has clean hands.

I am *not* saying Finicum got what he deserved or anything like that, but if you publicly announce that you are always armed and ready to die before going to jail, you have to understand that law enforcement will take that seriously. Those in LE who may be bad actors will have an excuse to gun you down. Those in LE who may not be bad actors will nevertheless be more ready than usual to use lethal force when they come to arrest you.

I am not trying to acquit the FBI of shooting a man who may very well have been surrendering. I am not blaming Finicum for being gunned down by LE if that is what happened. All I am saying is that the most likely thing that occurred here was something south of the FBI righteously defending themselves from an armed guy charging at them with lethal intent, and something north of the FBI cold-bloodedly executing a man on his knees with his hands in the air.

221 posted on 01/27/2016 1:53:53 PM PST by Scirparius
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To: Scirparius

[[There are two different “eyewitness” accounts of what happened that are very different.]]

Yep and apparently one was nearly a mile back and couldn’t even see the shooting, but amazingly he could see someone’ rushing forward’

[[and something north of the FBI cold-bloodedly executing a man on his knees with his hands in the air. ]]

Hands in air, whether on knees or standing makes little difference- no one owned a stun gun? Or mace? 120 rounds fired? more rounds fired into Finicum after he fell to ground?- FBI firing into the vehicle?

I’m not saying any of this was 100% the way it went down- we’ll likely never know- however, the evidence for now is leaning strongly towards a massive abuse of power- Especially IF Finicum had his hands out the window and they fired into the vehicle- causing him to have to flee for his own safety and that of those in the vehicle


222 posted on 01/27/2016 2:04:33 PM PST by Bob434
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