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Townhall.com ^ | January 27, 2016 | John Stossell

Posted on 01/27/2016 6:08:34 AM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 01/27/2016 6:08:34 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Banana republic corruption.

No rule of law. Rubber stamp legislature, lawmaking by the judiciary and petty bureaucrats, demagoguery and criminal behavior by the exec branch and (federal) law enforcement agencies.

Payoffs to and from cronies everywhere you turn.

Welcome to 21st century Amerika


2 posted on 01/27/2016 6:21:52 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s, you weren't really there....)
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I think that just because Iowa is the first state to decide in primaries, and therefore they think they can hold the rest of the nation’s taxpayers hostage over corn subsidies, is very narrow minded and selfish. Kudos to any candidate that stands up for the free market.


3 posted on 01/27/2016 6:23:06 AM PST by Rusty0604 (1q)
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To: Kaslin
I look at this situation differently than most people...

Obuma knifed the keystone pipeline, loss of jobs, no oil, no fuel...

Obuma knifed the coal mines in PA, and around, loss of jobs, no fuel...

Obuma knifed the drilling for oil, loss of jobs, no fuel...

Some of the candidates are against ethanol, some are for it, I'm looking at it as a American jobs, resource thing, not a campaign item....

We look at the middle east, Iran just over took Iraq, big oil there, OPEC, Saudi and other countries over there all have oil and lots of it, that means higher prices, we don't have jobs in this country anymore, less money to buy high priced fuel...

Obuma won't drill or frake for oil, so what do we have left?

Corn or wind...wind is dangerous, to expensive and the birds get caught in the blades....so now we come down to corn or ethanol, it runs our cars, isn't as expensive as OPEC oil, can heat our homes if need be, and is an income jobs source...

We right now have how many manufacturing places? We have right now how many jobs from those manufacturing places? We need jobs people, not hamburger flipping jobs, but real jobs...

We used to grow cotton in the southern states, send them north to the manufactures to make textiles, not any more, sent out of the country...we used to have car manufactures that built cars, not anymore, sent out of the country...and the list goes on...

I guess when there isn't any fuel, you can cut a hole in the ceiling of your home for a pipe to let the smoke go out and burn wood, if you can find any trees the government hasn't taken, or you walk to work, the grocery stores won't be an option, to expensive, so if you can find a plot of land that you can claim, grow a garden...maybe there will be a neighbor you can barter with for a couple of gallons of real cows milk, or a chicken for eggs...

Go ahead and knock ethanol...we'll see what happens when you have to walk instead of riding in your car...

4 posted on 01/27/2016 6:25:08 AM PST by HarleyLady27 ("The Force Awakens"!!! TRUMP;TRUMP;TRUMP;TRUMP!!! 100%)
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"Cars run on fuel. Politicians run on votes, and they'll do almost anything to get them."
5 posted on 01/27/2016 6:26:46 AM PST by Steely Tom (Vote GOP: A Slower Handbasket)
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To: HarleyLady27

There are 16 wind turbines on my family’s ranch. I have NEVER seen a dead bird around any of them.


6 posted on 01/27/2016 6:34:02 AM PST by texas_mrs
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Good, could you explain first hand about wind turbines and how they work? All we know is what the media tells us...


7 posted on 01/27/2016 6:37:15 AM PST by HarleyLady27 ("The Force Awakens"!!! TRUMP;TRUMP;TRUMP;TRUMP!!! 100%)
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To: HarleyLady27

I’m no fan of the wind farms (sorry about the pun), but I see it as a much better return on our tax money than Solyndra, etc. At least these actually produce a sizeable amount of electricity for our state.


8 posted on 01/27/2016 6:42:44 AM PST by texas_mrs
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As I understand, farmers have moved from food corn to a breed of corn for Ethanol, resulting in greatly increased prices for food corn due to lower supply and higher demand. If ethanol subsidies were cancelled, farmers would return to food corn, jobs would remain static and supply would increase in the food corn sector.


9 posted on 01/27/2016 6:46:53 AM PST by cyclotic (Liberalism is what smart looks like to stupid people.)
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To: Rusty0604

Uses up good farmland.

Costs more to get it to market in exhaust emitting tanker trucks since it can’t be sent in a pipeline

Where are the enviro-wackos


10 posted on 01/27/2016 7:04:07 AM PST by Chauncey Gardiner
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Ethanol bad, Butanol good.


11 posted on 01/27/2016 7:14:04 AM PST by taxcontrol ( The GOPe treats the conservative base like slaves by taking their votes and refuses to pay)
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Don’t like ethanol in my car; hate subsidizing it!

Trump is wrong here.


12 posted on 01/27/2016 7:15:18 AM PST by jch10 (Hillary in the Big House, not the White House .)
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To: HarleyLady27
so if you can find a plot of land that you can claim, grow a garden...

But then the feds want to control what water you use and how much in your little plot of land. So even growing your own veges on your own land is now regulated. Also bartering is frowned upon by the feds, unless you tell them what you bartered what it is worth and pay taxes.

13 posted on 01/27/2016 7:38:40 AM PST by thirst4truth (America, What difference does it make?)
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To: Steely Tom

Bingo, you got it.


14 posted on 01/27/2016 9:38:37 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: jch10

Who does?


15 posted on 01/27/2016 9:55:06 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: texas_mrs

That’s an amazing claim, and I have to wonder how it’s possible. It seems that it’s quite a common even that birds DO fly into the blades. To say NEVER is amazing!


16 posted on 01/28/2016 6:40:28 AM PST by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: cyclotic

Commodity corn is animal food. The commodity corn supply and the acres devoted to it have increased to accommodate fuel ethanol demand and commodity corn prices are where they have historically been - around the cost of production. Hybrids for fuel don’t really change the commodity corn market.

The kinds of corn used for immediate human consumption have always been a specialty crop. Big users like Frito-Lay have it grown for them under contract.


17 posted on 01/28/2016 6:51:34 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: AllAmericanGirl44

I did not say birds never fly into the blades - you are twisting my words. I said none of us have ever found dead or dying birds on the ranch. Maybe because it is more desert-like here & there are fewer birds, I don’t know the reason. But it isn’t an issue here.


18 posted on 01/28/2016 8:41:43 AM PST by texas_mrs
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Huh? So dead birds by wind turbins wouldn’t necessarily be due to the blades? What am I missing here? But you have NEVER had a dead bird by a blade.

Nevermind, I’m not there so there is no way to prove or disprove your statement. Just seems highly unlikely to a thinking person.


19 posted on 01/28/2016 8:57:58 AM PST by AllAmericanGirl44
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Insult me all you like. It makes no difference to me if you believe me or you don’t.


20 posted on 01/28/2016 11:06:49 AM PST by texas_mrs
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