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To: The All Knowing All Seeing Oz
My problem with your argument is; “who defines the Constitution? According to our laws, it’s the courts, not a bunch of guys with guns.

Much like the court system have been taken over by Occupy Lawyers. You may wanna close your eyes for the next part.

The courts have became a Damned Lawyers Oligarchy and group of back slapping deal cutting thugs willing to surrender any case and Constitutional point for an agreement cut either in the judges chambers or out in the hallway. Truth left the halls of justice decades ago and so has justice.

If a person wants a Contempt of Court Charge all they have to do is simply these days try to tell "The Whole Truth" on a witness stand about something. It's scripted tyranny and I say it as a person who has had it done to them before where I was a called witness. What Courts? What Judges? Even the Juries never hear the whole truth now but rather they hear pre-screened scripted B.S. approved by judges and lawyers before hand.

As for persons occupying parks? The ones you speak of are burning down peoples homes and private businesses and the government has convicted just how many in places like Ferguson? They demand we tear down statues many times donated to parks by private donors. They call it diversity AND THEY ALWAYS GET THEIR WAY UNHARASSED.

Ever hear of the Pine Tree Riot? The government of the day decreed what belong to it as well. It was the start of the Revolutionary War in a very real sense.

There is no sense in government holding the massive lands it holds. It should be state of private property except where national security is an absolute issue. Some lands were not long held ones rather many came under the Clinton Land Grabs. And as for cattle grazing? It should an even non cash beneficial service in return for beneficial services deal. The cattle are beneficial in promoting environmental growth and helping contain fire risk which is to BLM's interest.

One of the largest problems in federal government today is it has way overstepped it's Constitutional Authority and it's duties & limits specified in the Constitution. We have federal agencies coming in making laws and saying We want it so it's ours now. Sometimes compensation is made and sometimes it isn't.

Ever had a run in with a federal agency doing a land grab before. I don't mean a client I mean personally? I have against TVA. I was intimidated, threatened, and harassed. I made no bodily harm threats. I was trying to ensure my home would not get flooded off the ridge by a federal power producer who had ran roughshod over the southeast since the days of FDR. They purchases by contract a 50' by 1200' easement with a contracted 100' clause for danger trees for a high voltage transmission line. They came in with chainsaws and dozers cutting an almost 500' wide path. I had a family member hold a camcorder and I went up and told them they were trespassing and to stop cutting. They said we'll take what we want to and need to. I said you violated our contract now you leave my property and bring your supervisors to me for a meeting. The crew supervisor said we're bringing a U.S. Marshall to take the trees. I had made no threats and they said they needed a Marshall?

I took pictures of the damage. I called my congresscritter and media. I called neighbors and warned them. I raised hell. But I made no threats. A few days later I got a call from a purchasing agent wishing to meet with me and my dad to discuss what happened and he was bringing a forestry expert. The came, we talked, he counted stumps, I expressed grave concerns that they were cutting to close to my home located below and the next big rain would cause a landslide and take my home. He agreed and so did the forestry guy. They paid us for their damages then asked about the trees what to do with the cut ones. We said the trees stay on the ground.

I called the neighbors and all had to renegotiate. What happened was they purchased a R.O.W. for the planned stacked single pole power 30' plus high line. Someone in design decided to go with the wide and high tower configuration. They thought they could run roughshod.

Anyone who thinks government isn't corrupt and ran by liars, cheats, and thieves and thinks it can police itself with courts is insane.

262 posted on 01/27/2016 1:05:07 PM PST by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: cva66snipe; The All Knowing All Seeing Oz
Much like the court system have been taken over by Occupy Lawyers. You may wanna close your eyes for the next part.

Was posted by you and not made by me. Formatting error on my part.

263 posted on 01/27/2016 1:10:15 PM PST by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: cva66snipe

My sincere sympathies for what you endured

My advice, for what’s it’s worth, never deal with any government agency. Hire a good lawyer.

One of may partners represented someone in a situation such as yours. Even though the Feds were legally right on the issue of Eminent Domain, there were much better ways to accomplish the same thing, and the local Feds had been very abusive.

The State was one where one-party notification of intention to record voices & video (hidden camera) was legal. Client told the feds he was very ill and bedridden. Idiots came into his bedroom where the hidden camera was set up and restated everything.

After the victim’s session with the local Feds, my partner took the video to the Feds big boss here in DC and basically said, “If you go away, this goes away too. If not, Mike Wallace of 60 Minutes was my fraternity brother. I have him on speed dial. My next call is to him, and I send him the tape.”

Problem over. Oh, and because it was an Eminent Domain action, the Feds paid our firm’s bill.

Best of luck


272 posted on 01/27/2016 1:40:26 PM PST by The All Knowing All Seeing Oz (I carry a handgun because even a small police officer is too big and heavy to carry.)
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