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Why This Former Trump Fan Doesn't Support Him Anymore
Townhall.com ^ | January 26, 2016 | John Hawkins

Posted on 01/26/2016 5:36:15 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: Zionist Conspirator

Trump is a vessel who says a lot of things that need saying. But as TC is proving with the “Iowans are stupid” ad there’s a treasure trove of stuff that will be used against him in the fall. And I’m still not 100 percent convinced that Trump is not working in concert with the Clintons.


221 posted on 01/26/2016 7:13:33 AM PST by gogulls (frequent lurker since 2000 recount)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

How many I can find to wake fools like you up. Which will probably never happen because of your foolishness


222 posted on 01/26/2016 7:14:05 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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To: xzins
Pick a topic, and GW didn't defend it. He wouldn't even defend his own war or his search for WMDs.

Sounds like he was being 'conservative'.

223 posted on 01/26/2016 7:14:20 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: All

Flip-Flopped on Legal Immigration:
Townhall’s Guy Benson: “Cruz has flip-flopped dramatically on a number of his previous immigration views.”

“In response, Rubio charged that Cruz supported mass legalization of illegal immigrants and proposed huge increases in federal issuance of certain immigration visas and green cards. Cruz shook his head throughout Rubio’s rejoinder, but Rubio was correct on these points. Cruz has flip-flopped dramatically on a number of his previous immigration views. The Texan shot back, ‘it is not accurate, what he just said, that I supported legalization.’ Sorry, Senator. It’s on tape.” (Townhall, Guy Benson, 12/16/15)

Flip-Flopped on H-1B Visas:
In an election year, Cruz said “he would suspend the H-1B program.”

“Cruz said he would suspend the H-1B program for 180 days while he audited the system for abuses, abandoning his prior support for a 500% increase in the high-tech program.” (CNN, 11/13/15)

“Cruz sharply distanced himself from his long-held plan to increase the number of visas for high-tech workers by 500%.”

“A month prior, Cruz sharply distanced himself from his long-held plan to increase the number of visas for high-tech workers by 500%. Under fire from conservative talk radio hosts who said he was imperiling American workers, Cruz said he would suspend the program for 180 days until it could be reformed to his liking.” (CNN, 12/1/7/15)

In 2013, Senator Cruz offered an amendment that would increase the H-1B Visa program from 65,000 to 325,000.

“During the 2013 immigration debate, the Texas senator proposed an amendment to the comprehensive ‘gang of eight’ Senate bill that he boasted would ‘dramatically increas[e]’ the annual limit on H-1B skilled guest worker visas—from 65,000 to 325,000—a five-fold expansion.” (Bloomberg, 8/20/15)


224 posted on 01/26/2016 7:14:28 AM PST by rbmillerjr (Reagan conservative: All 3 Pillars)
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To: papertyger
Me: Some Trump supporters have a bad habit of ad hominems and tearing down others who disagree, rather than explaining why those who disagree are wrong. This isn't the way to win elections or build up conservatism.

You: Your duplicity is appalling. This thread is FULL of rebuttals. "Cherry-picking" is does not help your original, fallacious assertion.

I picked the first dozen or so responses in this thread for my examples... at which point there were no "rebuttals," only insults. Proving my point. Also, you have offered no rebuttals, only insults. Point two.

Self-awareness is not your strong point, eh?

225 posted on 01/26/2016 7:15:42 AM PST by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Hwaet! Lar bith maest hord, sothlice!)
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To: ScottinVA

>> The phrase “class of alien” will have to pass a legal test <<

It’s really a very interesting Constitutional question.

On the one hand, using any kind of religious test would seem to violate the First Amendment. I think Anthony Kennedy could easily be persuaded, and the four Dhims on the SCOTUS are sure votes from the git-go.

But on the other hand, who would have standing to bring suit in a Federal court? Some alien who is outside the USA? No way, IMHO. And I can’t think of anybody else.

So if you can conjure up a plausible plaintiff, I’m all ears!


226 posted on 01/26/2016 7:20:27 AM PST by Hawthorn
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To: Kaslin

You’re boring Troll!


227 posted on 01/26/2016 7:23:15 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
I modified my opinion based on later feedback.

Fair enough. It still does show a disturbing trend of attack venomously first, consider later, though. And that's the point I'm making. As my dear departed grandmother used to say, "You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar."

But I still think this post has an agenda.

I'm not sure what that means. All posts have an "agenda." The O.P. seems to have an agenda explaining why he is no longer supporting Trump as his first choice. My post has the agenda to point out the dangers of tearing down those who got you where you are now, and who you hope to support you in the future. Your post has the "agenda" of defending Trump from criticism (and originally) to cast aspersions on the motives of the author of the article. So what? None of those agendas are invalid. It's the results of the actions that matter.

228 posted on 01/26/2016 7:23:25 AM PST by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Hwaet! Lar bith maest hord, sothlice!)
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To: House Atreides
From a Western Civilization perspective, it could serve as a great example to emulate by other civilized nations and help show them the route away from national suicide.

hah! What a thought!

This country has become what the government wants instead of what the people can accomplish. It's absolutely horrible.

229 posted on 01/26/2016 7:24:40 AM PST by uncitizen
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To: House Atreides
From a Western Civilization perspective, it could serve as a great example to emulate by other civilized nations and help show them the route away from national suicide.

hah! What a thought!

This country has become what the government wants instead of what the people can accomplish. It's absolutely horrible.

230 posted on 01/26/2016 7:24:59 AM PST by uncitizen
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To: ScottinVA

“The problem with that is that successful though Donald Trump may be, he fails all the time. He’s had four bankruptcies.”

Does this sound like an unbiased opinion? I don’t.

To state the ‘he fails ALL the time’ is utterly ridiculous. It makes the rest of his personal opinions suspect. But, that’s just me.


231 posted on 01/26/2016 7:25:22 AM PST by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Well then you’re a hater and not a real conservative and should jump off a bridge

/s


232 posted on 01/26/2016 7:27:08 AM PST by wardaddy (Trump or Cruz.......its win win folks......so take a John Riggins pill .......lie on the carpet)
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To: Colonel_Flagg; Kaslin
If Trump is nominated, his supporters will get exactly the candidate they deserve.

Kaslin -- if Trump loses, those folks here (a minority though they post frequently and aggressively enough, including in brief daily caucuses here, to appear otherwise) will REFUSE to be accountable for insisting on a candidate that so many here WARNED them would be rejected.

233 posted on 01/26/2016 7:27:11 AM PST by Finny (Voting "against" is a wish. Be ready to own what you vote for.)
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To: Kaslin
A well written article providing food for thought.

I share his concerns about Trump's temperament. The way one conducts himself in public is important in all walks of life. It is also indicative of how one will conduct himself in the future.

His tendency to belittle and demean opponents and detractors is bothersome. Nor is it new.

Is that how he will deal with anyone opposing his policies as POTUS? Christie on steroids.

What happens when the majority of us on the right oppose a policy he is trying to implement? Will he resort to calling us losers and whack jobs? After all, we are just nasty people; nobody likes us, everyone loves him.

While 90% of Freepers are at the ‘if X is the nominee, will you vote for him’ stage, I am still deciding my primary vote.

Temperament is but one consideration. Should I overlook behavior I consider beneath the dignity of the office of POTUS?

234 posted on 01/26/2016 7:28:07 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

I want a President who is A-POLITICAL.

One who doesn’t care what THIS party or THAT party wants, but what is GOOD FOR AMERICANS.

I see TRUMP (as evidenced by having been associated with various parties) as being that kind of President.

It is possible CRUZ could be that way also, but I think it would be much harder for him to do.


235 posted on 01/26/2016 7:28:48 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: palmer
What do you mean he's lying. The article is from August 29, 2015 where he writes that he doesn't know who he'll end up voting for in the general election. He wrote that he likes Trump and he likes his books and his personality

What you ignored was this article by the author

http://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2016/01/09/i-like-donald-trump-but-i-dont-think-he-can-win-a-general-election-n2101924/page/full

He gives his honest opinion and you don't like it.

Well so be it. Who cares?

236 posted on 01/26/2016 7:30:18 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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To: Rusty0604
Our nondiscrimination laws, as all our laws and rights, apply to citizens, not to the whole world.

That's not what the UN says.

237 posted on 01/26/2016 7:32:27 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Without Trump Bush III would have been inevitable.

It seems that many people forget this. As well, many people think that the media and GOPe have been permanently neutered.
238 posted on 01/26/2016 7:35:04 AM PST by PJBankard (It is the spirit of the men who leads that gains the victory. - Gen. George Patton)
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To: 4rcane

Wrong. More like someone that woke up and saw the truth. Unlike you


239 posted on 01/26/2016 7:36:31 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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To: papertyger; beandog

240 posted on 01/26/2016 7:37:27 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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