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To: MeganC
Your argument is akin to declaring God deceived us since birds are not subject to gravity. Of course, we now understand Bernoulli's principle, and that it can overcome gravity.

Scripture plainly states God stretched out the heavens. Also, since everything is winding down, or 'wearing out like a garment', perhaps the speed of light could be changing? Finally, you must explain away the plain reading of the creation account, and the genealogies provided, which both plainly declare the earth is ~6000 years old.

So, according to your interpretation of current observations, either God lied to us in the Bible, or He lies to us with our observations of billions of light years. Perhaps it is a false dichotomy?

Relativity may yet be useful in resolving this.

25 posted on 01/25/2016 10:36:41 AM PST by jimmyray (there is no problem so bad that you can't make it worse)
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To: jimmyray

You’re right to point out that more things could be variable than we think. God outdoes Scotty.

This might not be a manifest destiny into YEC though. As I just pointed out, the creation days don’t show any noons or afternoons. To just have an evening and a morning might be a broad hint of progressing from a state of absence to a state of presence, of what was being created in that period. It might not even mean it happened, literally, “as the world turned” once (and it raises the question of what PART of it too, because otherwise we might have to refer to a progression between different parts of the day).

I say let’t be like Job. Let’s fill up with the awe and let the theories take second place.


27 posted on 01/25/2016 10:42:37 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: jimmyray

1. No bird has ever overcome gravity. Sooner or later they all land.

2. “Perhaps the speed of light could be changing?” and it is not.

3. The Bible does not ‘plainly declare’ that the earth is 6,000 years old. This is something that fallible men calculate from the Bible. Fallible men for generations have also calculated the Last Days and, so far, every one of them has been wrong. Since men are batting .000 on the End Times it’s probably not too wise to think that men are going to bat 1.000 on the day the universe was created.

4. God did not lie to us when He revealed His wisdom. What fell short was the understanding of the people to whom that wisdom was revealed. The arrogance of every generation is to think that WE are the wisest generation EVER and that we can fully understand knowledge that may not be truly understood by men for maybe ten thousand more years.

While I’m still new to Christianity I’m not so new that I can’t see the hubris in the many people who admonish me “not to put God in a box” right before they tell me all the rules that God has to abide by in order to be worthy of their faith.

I’m content to let God be God. If He wants us to know how He created everything then in due time we’ll find out.

For now I am content to be still and know...


32 posted on 01/25/2016 10:47:42 AM PST by MeganC (The Republic of The United States of America: 7/4/1776 to 6/26/2015 R.I.P.)
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To: jimmyray

If the speed of light changed, life would not be possible. See my reply above.


33 posted on 01/25/2016 10:47:57 AM PST by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Hwaet! Lar bith maest hord, sothlice!)
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