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To: Gil4
1..site this law, in the Constitution, in common law history this definition of natural born citizen...that you seem to think makes so clear the difference between Obama’s mother and Cruz mother?

2.. was that distinction ever made in the birther arguments for’s for 8 years?

3.. Has Cruz ever made that argument as to why he would be eligible and Obama would have not been eligible if Obama was proven born overseas?

4... do you really think the general voting public is going to see some grand distinction between Obama’s mother and Cruz mother or they just going to see it is sleazy two-face hypocrite by the right?

5... do you have any doubt the dem and media going to drag this to court?

6... are you so sure the law is so clearly on your side that you're going to risk it in court?...You put the whole election at risk before we even start

7. Do you have any doubt that the powers in DC that be are not going to let that distinction save Cruz...given the Dem/GOPe Alliance and the corrupt Roberts court?

8... do you understand the expression:....whistling past the graveyard?

Remember it not about just about if Cruz is eligible or not eligible... it's about being consistent on the right on the birther arguments that were made against Obama and now again Cruz ....the right now going to seem the mostly sleazy twoface hypocrite... that what the voting public the media and the Dems will focus on...

9. Finally the fact that Cruz never got in front of this way back before he declared like McCain did on this Panama birth... added in the fact that this birth argument over Obama went on for 8 years that everybody knows it now... don't you think that shows a highly questionable.. downright irresponsible... decision by Cruz????.. for Cruz to now have the audacity to ask the right to put him up for president.. with this hanging over his head....when he should have been addressing vulnerability this long before he ever put his name up for president

and honest ....do you think you or any of the Cruz supporter would be making this mother eligibility distinction if Bernie Sanders or Hillary if they had the same exact Canadian birth circumstances as Cruz ?

86 posted on 01/24/2016 2:39:58 AM PST by tophat9000 (King G(OP)eorge III has no idea why the Americans Patriot%s are in rebellion... teach him why)
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To: tophat9000
1..site this law, in the Constitution, in common law history this definition of natural born citizen...that you seem to think makes so clear the difference between Obama's mother and Cruz mother?

There has only been one definition of NBC that has been consistent: citizen at birth. There has been debate over what constitutes that, and part of the purpose of the laws on nationality was to clarify that. I cited the law here.

2.. was that distinction ever made in the birther arguments for 8 years?

Yes, constantly.

3.. Has Cruz ever made that argument as to why he would be eligible and Obama would have not been eligible if Obama was proven born overseas?

I don't know what he has said about Obama. He might have believed Obama was born in Hawaii.

4... do you really think the general voting public is going to see some grand distinction between Obama's mother and Cruz mother or they just going to see it is sleazy two-face hypocrite by the right?

It's not that complicated. The "Bush lied, people died" crowd is going to believe whatever delusion they want to believe. Some will understand it. Most didn't care about it then and won't care about it now.

5... do you have any doubt the dem and media going to drag this to court?

So after 8 years of mocking birthers, they are going to go into full birther mode? A few might, but they will be the fringe.

6... are you so sure the law is so clearly on your side that you're going to risk it in court?...You put the whole election at risk before we even start

We took a bigger risk on a much lesser candidate. See post 43 above. McCain relied on citizen at birth = NBC. There is also this line: "Congress enacted 8 U.S.C. 1403(a), which declared that persons in Senator McCain's circumstances are citizens by virtue of their birth, thereby retroactively rendering Senator McCain a natural born citizen, if he was not one already." Cruz is in the same situation (different paragraph in the same sub-section of the law) except he doesn’t have to worry about the "retroactively."

7. Do you have any doubt that the powers in DC that be are not going to let that distinction save Cruz...given the Dem/GOPe Alliance and the corrupt Roberts court?

The law is the law. I'm going to support the best eligible candidate, and Cruz is the best eligible candidate I have seen in a long time.

8... do you understand the expression:....whistling past the graveyard?

Trusting Trump = more whistling + bigger graveyard.

Remember it not about just about if Cruz is eligible or not eligible... it's about being consistent on the right on the birther arguments that were made against Obama and now again Cruz ....the right now going to seem the mostly sleazy twoface hypocrite... that what the voting public the media and the Dems will focus on...

Again, the law is the law. That's consistent. Some birthers were all over the map. I'm not going to change my support for Cruz on account of them.

9. Finally the fact that Cruz never got in front of this way back before he declared like McCain did on this Panama birth... added in the fact that this birth argument over Obama went on for 8 years that everybody knows it now... don't you think that shows a highly questionable.. downright irresponsible... decision by Cruz????.. for Cruz to now have the audacity to ask the right to put him up for president.. with this hanging over his head....when he should have been addressing vulnerability this long before he ever put his name up for president

McCain did it already. If McCain was eligible, Cruz is moreso.

and honest ....do you think you or any of the Cruz supporter would be making this mother eligibility distinction if Bernie Sanders or Hillary if they had the same exact Canadian birth circumstances as Cruz ?

Yes. If Obama was born in Hawaii, he was eligible. If his mother had lived in the US for 10 years before his birth, including 5 past the age of 14, the birth certificate wouldn't have mattered.

103 posted on 01/24/2016 8:41:19 PM PST by Gil4 (And the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, ax and saw)
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