Posted on 01/22/2016 4:21:58 PM PST by TBBT
I am not making this up or exaggerating what Donald Trump said. These are his words and you can see the video for yourself. Via the Blaze, Trump literally says that when he gets to Washington he's going to become an establishment politician so that he can get some really great, super huge, classy deals done.
Here he is speaking in Las Vegas last night.
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Trump: And you know what, there's a point at which, let's get to be a little bit establishment, because we gotta get things done, folks, okay? Believe me, don't worry, we're gonna get such great deals, but at a certain point, you can't be so strident, you can't not get along, we gotta get along with people. You know in the old days, Ronald Reagan, and I remember it so vividly, I was a young guy, I helped Ronald Reagan, I really liked him... so what happens, Ronald Reagan would get along with (Democrat) Tip O'Neill, and they'd sit down, and they'd make great deals for everybody. That's what the country's about, isn't it? I mean, we can all be tough but at some point we gotta get our country back on track.
(Excerpt) Read more at redstate.com ...
Circular firing squad. Enough....
All I’m doing is standing on conservative principle. Which is what we are supposed to be about doing here IIRC. If anyone has an issue with that, it’s not me with the problem.
I rest my case.
If you are President, aren’t you by definition “the Establishment?”Just saying!
Not with 500ish people aligned against you.
I was just wondering if he was going to make a great deal with the cartels.
The simple answer to you question is... No.
Words mean things, and they mean different things depending on the context in which they are applied.
This is not a win tactic for Donald.
Likewise you didn’t address a single point I made.
I have to start driving again.
Your condescension is part and parcel of your group’s unpalatability with everyone except yourselves, and is one major reason Rafael will never rise above a distant second place.
FReegards
Well this independent has, more go along to get along? Well I say now f-ing way in hell will I vote for more of that crap!
But you never actual attack Leon or Redstate’s arguments only the messenger(s)’
You didn’t make a point. you diverted the issue to TC. But if you want to drag this out, thats your choice. The thread is about Donald Trump drifting to the establishment by his own words. Not Redstate’s issues, not Ted Cruz.
Donald Trump.
Now make your point and I will explain why it’s wrong.
I am not convinced that Trump even if elected would keep both hoouses Republican (polling) would be needed to convince me.
Birds of a feather....
Sharpton for Trump’s HUD Director...
Rangle for Trump’s Treasury Secretary...
Hillary will be pardoned...then head of HHS!
Frustrating, isn’t it? I’ve seen better retorts to fact on bathroom walls than the ones I’m seeing these days at FR from so-called conservatives. In the 15+ years I’ve been here, I was under the allusion so many here had principles. Any discussion regarding comments Trump makes that may be worthy of analysis by supposedly critical thinkers somehow turns into acusations of “you keep wearing knee pads for the ruling elite!” or similar profound declarations. Hell, I understand how Fatwas get carried out now.
He understands the wimp Republicans that are now the majority, they're desperate to be "the establishment" which is why they kowtow to the democrat scum all the time.
Trump is changing the dynamics of the HS lunchroom that passes for our Legislative branch.
If you question what Trump did or said, you are attacking him. You have TDS. You are a Troll. When Trumpers question Cruz, they are merely pointing out weaknesses he would have in the General or trying to get an issue resolved. When presented with a notebook full of past problematic Trump statements they pull out postcard full of Cruz sins.
And people wonder why we know they are liberals. It’s right out o the Saul Alynski handbook.
Frustrating, isn’t it? I’ve seen better retorts to fact on bathroom walls than the ones I’m seeing these days at FR from so-called conservatives. In the 15+ years I’ve been here, I was under the allusion so many here had principles. Any discussion regarding comments Trump makes that may be worthy of analysis by supposedly critical thinkers somehow turns into acusations of “you keep wearing knee pads for the ruling elite!†or similar profound declarations. Hell, I understand how Fatwas get carried out now.Frustrating? That depends if you really think that you can actually change minds here. Personally, I have no such allusions with many of the characters here. I would use the word "depressing" instead of "frustrating".
In regards to your characterization of the counter arguments encountered here, I would say your assessment of their quality is pretty fair.
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