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To: Republican Wildcat

How does Cruz think the land for the Keystone pipeline that he supported would be acquired? Emminent Domain.
The pipeline land would be bought and taken for a corporations use to transport corporate oil from Canada to the gulf at a corporate storage facility to be sent on a corporations ship to asia to be refined and sold by a corporation there. No different from Trump’s deal. All keystone infrastructure was to benefit the corporations using it. With Asia as the primary beneficiary.


3 posted on 01/22/2016 12:51:49 PM PST by Sasparilla
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To: Sasparilla

It’s very sad that you can’t distinguish between transportation routes that must go from point A to point B to be effective, and a parking lot for a rich casino owner, that can be put anywhere.

The first may require eminent domain, the second never does.


6 posted on 01/22/2016 12:56:28 PM PST by BigBobber (`)
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To: Sasparilla

Intrastate pipelines are part of our national defense.


9 posted on 01/22/2016 1:02:06 PM PST by Beagle8U (Don't settle for Bill de Blasio's NYC 'values'.)
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To: Sasparilla

First of all...not all of the properties would be taken by eminent domain. In fact, probably very few would. I happen to have a pipeline on my property. The way it works is that they come through and make offers to the various property owners based on how much their land will be affected. You can accept the deal, renegotiate the deal or reject the deal. If you reject the deal, it is up to the pipeline to determine if it is cheaper to fight you in court, abandon the project or find another path for the pipeline. If they end up taking you to court it is not only the benefit of the pipeline that is in question. It is also the refiners, the drillers, the industry, the consmers AND YOUR NEIGHBORS WHO HAVE ALREADY MADE DEALS. Their compensation deals will all fall apart if you don’t sell or permit easement.

I don’t think that anyone is arguing that there are zero, none, no instances where eminent domain is ever justified.

I think there is a big difference between a pipeline that will help millions of people (including those who are being compensated for their land) and a limousine lane for a casino.


11 posted on 01/22/2016 1:04:15 PM PST by nitzy (I don't vote for Republican'ts)
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To: Sasparilla

After numerous accidents and a couple of deaths the county decided to straighten a bad curve that adjoined my property. Yes they used their legal team to take part of my field .....so. They gave me fair price and I am happy the road is safer


15 posted on 01/22/2016 1:07:24 PM PST by hoosiermama (Make America Great Again by uniting Great Americans)
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To: Sasparilla
If you really believe that, why don't you go live in Russia.

I think we should be weary of using eminent domain for Keystone, or anything else. But a City Council using it to steal a private property just because they big government crony bribes them to do it, for something that serves no government necessity is not the same thing.

You obviously don't like living in a free country.

16 posted on 01/22/2016 1:07:43 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Sasparilla

Cruz said the Keystone Pipeline should be approved. He NEVER said emminent domain shuld be used to acquire the right of way for the property to build it. It’s a huge difference.

I noticed that you simply ignored the fact that Trump tried to use crony capitalism to take this woman’s property. I’d like to hear you justify that.


21 posted on 01/22/2016 1:10:27 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: Sasparilla
The pipeline land would be bought and taken for a corporations use to transport corporate oil from Canada to the gulf at a corporate storage facility to be sent on a corporations ship to asia to be refined and sold by a corporation there.

Pipelines don't buy land, they lease rights of way. We have swarms of pipelines up here, all well below plow depth. There are rules about how close they can be to a home, and everything--and I mean everything from surface 'damages' to farmland to location of the line, to pumping, pig shooting, and compressor stations is specified in the leases.

The landowner retains ownership of the land, unless they decide to sell a location for a compressor station or such.

Lease terms are negotiable and generous, and the State has a body to oversee the emplacement and operation of pipelines. Failure to fulfill the terms of the lease are cause for criminal and civil action.

42 posted on 01/22/2016 1:31:39 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Sasparilla

So how many eminent domain court cases have been filed over Keystone? I bet you don’t have a clue.


90 posted on 01/22/2016 3:53:56 PM PST by Hoodat (Article 4, Section 4)
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