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To: free_life
It is not my job to teach you theology or discernment. Here are some additional sites to see for yourself.

http://www.cicministry.org/commentary/issue107.htm
http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/ditc23-1.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiv4chqh67w

I can give you hundreds of others from leading discernment ministers of the Gospel around the world, like Jacob Prasch, Dave Hunt, Arnold Fructenbaum, Bill Randles, etc. however, I am not sure that it would do you any good. You obviously have no concern for truth or God's word. The evidence is legion. Everyone has known about Mike Bickle since his so-called "Kansas city prophet" days. The evidence is out there for everyone. You can't discern, because you won't discern. You are the problem. There would be no audience for false teachers and false prophets like Mike Bickle, were it not for faithless, gullible, people who provide an audience for them to tickle their ears...with prosperity and false pronouncements.

By the way, I am a Pentacostal, Evangelical Christian, Bible believing Christian. You are welcome to read all my Free Republic posts. My church has contemporary worship music and the gifts of the spirit and outreaches all over the world. That said, John Park is right! IHOPs hypnotic use of so-called Christian music is not worship, is more akin to Kundalini Yoga!
42 posted on 01/23/2016 4:03:18 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

You judge and condemn the man publicly but won’t personally provide evidence why you judge and condemn him. Instead you say, “here go read this guy.” No thanks! I have looked into this before BECAUSE I DO want the truth, unlike you who just repeats what others say. Where is YOUR research on this? No where, you just take others word on it, when none of them provide any source evidence. Do you understand what source evidence is? It does not sound like you do.

I do not care what others say about Mike Bickle or who they are. I DO care what Mike Bickle says and if he has said false things there will be verifiable source evidence of him saying something false. I have never seen any in any of the times I looked into this. Now which one of us two wants the truth?

Then you falsely judge me saying, “ I obviously have no concern for truth or God’s word.” Proves my point...only those who agree with you, are concerned for truth or God’s word. This is how you judge and condemn people. You can deal with Jesus Himself, brother.

Further it is a lie that Mike Bickle teaches the or a prosperity gospel message. Quite the opposite, and further proof you are completely misinformed about what he does preach. Your sources are false, they are liars. If Bickle preached a form of the prosperity gospel I would have nothing to do with him. I have heard him preach and read his teaching, and have gone through his teachings list online, and know people who have been listening to his preaching and teaching for many years...not one of them would have anything to do with a man preaching or teaching the prosperity gospel. (There is more than one prosperity gospel BTW and some who speak against it have their own form of prosperity gospel). So another lie which you just carelessly repeat.

I tried to have a reasonable conversation with and asked for evidence of what you claimed with a open mind that maybe you could present something I haven’t seen or didn’t know about Mike Bickle and if that had happened I would have faced it honestly and reevaluated my thinking on him. Instead I got insults and false accusations about myself. Good job brother. /sarcasm

You couldn’t provide truth so you insulted me and accused me of things which are not true. I count 10 insults you direct at me, like you know me ... you don’t know me at all! You just don’t like I won’t follow you down the garden path of judgment without evidence. Look at yourself as Paul says, judge yourself at what you are doing. See the huge log in your eye evident right here in your last post, before you judge others.

As for IHOP worship music, you have never been there to judge it. I have worshiped in an IHOP affiliated church and seen the worship live online at IHOP.org ... I worship Jesus alone and discern IHOP people worship Jesus. I don’t use yoga nor am I hypnotized when I worship Jesus. What an ugly untrue thing to say.

I leave you now to stew in your mess, may God give you in His kindness, a heart leading to repentance.

The Holy Spirit says, to leave a door open for you, so I will. If you want to have a reasonable conversation without insulting me because I don’t agree with you on everything, let’s start again. I will only accept credible sourced evidence that a brother or sister is false. I don’t care who someone is or how important they think they are if they can’t provide honest evidence I will not accept it and they are wrong from the beginning. Either way, God’s peace and blessing to you, and may we both walk in all God’s paths; love, kindness and truth .. all three not just any one or two of the three. Psalms 25


43 posted on 01/23/2016 5:16:27 PM PST by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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