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To: Carry_Okie
You call Thomas Sowell or Brent Bozell (William F. Buckley's nephew) RINOs? Really? In the name of protecting a supposedly recent Democrat convert?

Coulter said something profound ...

Conservative pundits keep assuring clueless viewers that Trump is not a "real Republican." ... Looking at what the party has become, I certainly hope he's not a "real Republican."

We should come to grips with the fact that (R)INO is a relative term of art. Except for a handful of dead-ender party-first (R)epublicrat loyalists today, we can all agree that Ronald Reagan was a wonderful RINO in the 1970's, compared to the then well established GOPe (R)epublicrats Nixon, Agnew, Ford, Rockefeller, Dole, ad nauseum.

The post-Reagan (R)epublicrat reset, which was well underway by his 2nd term, really was just a re-assertion of the same with Bush41, Dole, Lott, McCain, Romney, Ryan and all the rest. History is predictably repeating once again, and calling Trump names as we have seen also duplicate the attacks on RINO Reagan. As no two people are ever alike, Trump and Reagan are not interchangeable, but the lashing out by the establishment in their day is very similar.

So what to do with normally rational warriors like Bozell and Sowell? It's very hard to categorize them in a changing environment like this. Probably the safest thing to say is to just state that they are now blissfully unaware UniParty shills, attempting to preserve the status quo - an illusion of opposition to the socialist government - but is really just kabuki theater to keep the masses from storming the beltway. They are still allies of ours on occasion, but they are willing to sacrifice some of their reputation to a kind of political correctness ( which does not always mean leftist dogma ). In a sense they are more worried about becoming Robespierre than Thomas Paine, and that literally means that socialism and captivity is preferable to revolution or civil war, hot or cold.

Personally I prefer to skip the (R) discussion completely and to ask our luminaries whether they actually believe that doctrinaire (C) or (R) labels will win in the twelve swing states: OH, PA, MI, WI, IN, IA, NC, VA, FL, NV, NM, CO. If we stick to that cold clinical logical electoral approach then there is no need for a philosophical circular firing squad. If they would rather lose on principles in those states to remain philosophically pure they should just say it in plain English, loudly and proudly. I can respect that while completely disagreeing with them.

However, I would expect in return a logical argument specifically addressing those battleground states and no hand-wringing appeals to philosophical authority as they are doing with this insane National Review publicity stunt by the little metrosexual girley-man Rich Lowry.

141 posted on 01/22/2016 11:48:12 AM PST by Democratic-Republican
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To: Democratic-Republican
Spinning terms to the point of subjectivity is not an argument.

Coulter has become more "pro-fund" than profound, for a lot of reasons.

As no two people are ever alike, Trump and Reagan are not interchangeable, but the lashing out by the establishment in their day is very similar.

This is about the establishment being behind Trump, which is what I have been saying throughout his candidacy given the free air time he has been given. This fits the pattern of the last four elections at least, in which the conservative candidates have been starved for air time, other than Fred Thompson which was just a fan dance to dilute the conservative vote and distract attention from the likes of Duncan Hunter.

So what to do with normally rational warriors like Bozell and Sowell? It's very hard to categorize them in a changing environment like this.

Oh but you'll try, to preserve your self-delusion of immovable rectitude.

They are still allies of ours on occasion,

Speak for yourself. Trump is no conservative; he is a con artist.

Personally I prefer to skip the (R) discussion completely and to ask our luminaries whether they actually believe that doctrinaire (C) or (R) labels will win in the twelve swing states: OH, PA, MI, WI, IN, IA, NC, VA, FL, NV, NM, CO.

Against Hillary or Sanders? My dog could win those States.

Since 1986, we have had nothing but "he can win" RINOs nominated for President. You call Trump a change, but here you go again. The GOPe is lining up behind Trump. This is the best and last opportunity we have EVER seen to elect a conservative and you plan to boot the whole thing, because you believe a man who has never demonstrated adherence to conservatism over any substantive period of time, a man who has welched on his loans and cheated on his wives. He has told you in no uncertain terms, he will bring back illegal aliens as LEGAL immigrants, in other words future Democrats. That will be the end. You cannot afford this mistaken loyalty to one who has done NOTHING to earn it.

143 posted on 01/22/2016 1:10:01 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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