Posted on 01/21/2016 5:50:01 AM PST by Helicondelta
Wow. Did you guys REALLY just use the NO U argument on me? In defense of the salvation-by-political-candidate argument that is against pretty much every word of Scripture? Oh, sorry, there was one NO U, and one trying really hard to change the subject away from your outright blasphemy.
Talk about intellectual bankruptcy. Talk about spiritual bankruptcy. I’d like to believe that you’re both liberal plants because you’re acting about as bad as conservative stereotypes in the worst of the liberal media.
If this was just about Trump, I’d giggle at your butthurt. But it’s not; you’re dragging the name of Christ through the mud and can offer no defense for it other than to try to change the subject.
I’d post the picture of the bawling toddler again, but that defense of yours is really just pathetic. You’ll get mocked with images when you DESERVE it.
LOL, ok FRiend, I’m laughing now ... I just can’t believe the extremist rip current that has appeared in this thread, I mean c’mon, “Jesus is for Cruz”?!?
I'm not exactly an expert on the subject, but how could Jesus possibly support a guy like Trump who endorsed a communist for major of New York City, and supports another communist (Obama)'s new opening up to communist Cuba, and, at least until his MID-FIFTIES supported gays in the military AND all forms of abortion, including partial birth. Now tell me you've actually paused for a moment and given these things some thought.
During Prayer and Worship and reading God`s Word, The Lord showed me this. No audible voice
There is no question the Lord is for Cruz, how could you even ask.
That`s like asking if Jesus supports the Democrat party platform, or asking the asinine question , does the Lord support Planned parenthood or the removal of His own Name from the Classroom Public Square or the teaching of Children that homosexuality is a option for them.
Trump is NOT for the things of God...
and if you think The Lord supports false witness against Ted Cruz by Trump and Palin, think again
If the Lord was into election outcomes, ovomit never would have won.
He also forgets that we're not electing a Pope.
He also forgets that Winston Churchill may have not been a favorable and suitable leader. Under this poor guys rules for purity, Trump may have led a more moral life than Sir Winston.
First off, are you aware of "the glaring problems surrounding Trump, many of which have been conveniently laid out for you over and over on these threads" that I was referring to?
If not, here they are again...for your convenience:
Donald Trump: "He's a smart guy that knows what's going on really big league and I think he is not going to want to destroy New York."
Voice Over: That was Donald Trump a little over two years ago, endorsing PC Socialist Bill de Blasio for New York Mayor.
Donald Trump: "I think pretty strongly that he'll end up being a good mayor, maybe a very good mayor."
Voice Over: De Blasio ran on class warfare, sanctuary cities and ending stop and frisk. De Blasio's sided with looters and cop killers against the police, with teachers unions against schoolchildren and with PC liberals to let the homeless run wild on city streets.
Donald Trump: "I think he is going to want to make New York great. ..."
http://www.redstate.com/2016/01/19/trump-endorsed-bill-de-blasio/
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Described by CNN as the "unabashed liberal," de Blasio is actually to the left of Barack Obama, in the sense that de Blasio didn't disavow his communist background once it came to light. At least Obama tried to cover up his ties to communist Frank Marshall Davis.
De Blasio had scrubbed the Marxist connections from his campaign website, an omission that momentarily captured the attention of The New York Times. But once these connections and controversies came to light, he embraced his sordid history. He still embraces [communist] liberation theology and his work for the communist Sandinistas in Nicaragua.
Nobody believed the purpose of his "honeymoon" to Cuba was actually a honeymoon, but the media didn't even bother to check into how he made the illegal trip and whether the FBI had developed a file on the candidate.
De Blasio was so open about his Marxism that on Sunday, he campaigned with Harry Belafonte, who during the Cold War sang at a "Concert for Peace" in communist East Germany, where he attacked President Reagan's anti-communist foreign policy. A long-time supporter of the Castro dictatorship, Belafonte was also an ally of the late Venezuelan Marxist ruler Hugo Chavez. ..."
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De Blasio can be expected to side with Soros and his "progressive base," rather than the police.
De Blasio can also do a lot of damage in the area of surveillance of potential Muslim terrorists. He made a campaign promise to a Muslim group that he would stop the practice of sending informants into mosques and Muslim student organizations.
Going further, if he moves to dismantle the NYPD's counter-terrorism programs, the city and nation could suffer through another 9/11.
Pamela Geller, a New Yorker, comments that the kind of journalism that we saw in the mayoral contest "is not just irresponsible; it endangers us all."
more at:
http://www.aim.org/aim-column/americas-first-openly-marxist-big-city-mayor/
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Trump: "I think its fine. I think its fine, but we should have made a better deal"...
"The concept of opening with Cuba is fine."
A Better Deal with Cuba, says Donald Trump
Humberto Fontova | Jan 16, 2016:
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FYI, Trump was in his mid-50s in 1999! So he wasn't just some confused college kid when he said he supported gays in the military and all forms of abortion, including partial birth.
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In continuing his "New York values" line of attack, Ted Cruz brought up an interview Donald Trump gave years ago in which he himself emphasized his New York background as being important to his political philosophy. And now we have that interview.
Cruz's campaign posted the video earlier today of Trump with Tim Russert on Meet the Press in 1999.
Russert asked Trump about gay marriage. Trump didn't want to comment on it, but said he has no problem with gays in the military.
He explained, "I've lived in New York City and Manhattan all my life, okay? So my views are a little bit different than if I lived in Iowa."
When Russert asked Trump about abortion, he said he's "pro-choice in every respect" and again cited his New York background, which he said has a "different attitude" from most of the country.
I fear God in a healthy way, and I can say with a clean conscience and with no fear, that Jesus is for Ted Cruz over Donald Trump.
ABORTION GAY MARRIAGE THE REMOVAL OF GOD /CHRIST FROM THE CLASSROOM PUBLIC SQUARE (CAPS FOR EMPHASES ONLY) IS NOT “JUST POLITICS”
These are life and death issues.
My Pentecostal Church wept openly when Clinton and Obama were elected, we will be weeping again if Trump wins
The Lords Spirit tells us clearly. anybody that claims to be a Christian and is not for Cruz, I think its pretty clear they are not in prayer.
IT`S AS BASIC IS ASKING THE QUESTION, GEE I WONDER IF JESUS IS FOR CHRISTIAN VALUES?
Anybody that has to ask that question is not in prayer
Only God know the hearts of any of His creation. Sometimes it is too easy to let emotions make one think it comes from Jesus... Some of the things I have read posted by Cruz supporters sure lack the Jesus stamp. Most especially that commandment about not bearing false witness... Too many unfounded accusations flying around to qualify for a mission from Jesus.
Trashing Sarah in the manner some have done is not from Jesus...
He The Lord gives us freedom of choice, he does not force us to even love him.
These are life and death Christian issues NOT “just politics”
People that claim to be “Christian Democrats” I always felt the phrase was a oxymoron, much like “pro choice Christian” or “Homosexual Christian” , all oxymorons.
They say they love Jesus but walk into a voting booth and vote for Anti Christian evils, this is just a outright in God`s face sin.
Its not even like a sin of passion were a person gives in only to regret later, asking for forgiveness.
This is a premeditated decision to sin against God, no sudden passion but a premeditated sin against a Holy God.
I mentioned Democrats, but now we are seeing Republicans do the same as Dems, Yes Moderate Republicans are already long guilty of this sin, now we are seeing so called Christian Conservatives openly and premeditated voting against the thinfs of God
The Bible says in the last days many will fall away
first Timothy 4
Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron
And here people asking the ridiculous question, who is the Lord Jesus for, Cruz or Trump
Why not ask if The Same Lord is for planned Parenthood or for Pro Life values
both asinine questions
Trump is missing the one thing that would possibly make him a Christian... that being a Testimony
LOOK AT ME; I CAN DO ALL CAPS TOO.
If you’re trying to tell me that your salvation is based upon A: picking the right political candidate, and B: not based on the grace of God won for us through the death and resurrection of Jesus, then you are without a doubt a blasphemer and a heretic.
And on top of that, supremely arrogant to believe that you have the power of God to see into people’s hearts.
You want to know why I support Trump? It’s because I believe that if we’re ever going to overturn abortion and gay marriage, we need someone who can smash the current establishment and break the power that is keeping these things legal. Trump has shown that he has the ability to do so.
Cruz has not yet shown that he has the ability to do so, nor for that matter the will to do so. With him, it’s more likely than not that you’ll just get words with no action and after 4 years it’ll just keep chugging along with no change at all.
My belief is that in the long term, the cause of life and the cause of marriage is served with someone who can shatter the current political establishment and give power back to we the people, who are by and large pro-life and pro-traditional marriage. I admit that I may be mistaken because unlike you, I can’t read minds or see the future, but that’s what I believe.
And if you want to bitch and whine and moan that I’m going to Hell and that Jesus will throw me and every other Christian who believes that into Hell because of that, go right ahead. But you’re still a blasphemous heretic if you say so.
WONDERFUL copypaste. Let me give you my BEST sarcastic applause.
If I didn’t give a crap about this before, what makes you think that I’d do so now? I am VERY aware of all this stuff that Trump said in the past; I still believe that he is the better candidate for life and marriage in the long run.
I would explain why, but you’d just copypaste some more.
I stopped reading your long post after first sentence... my salvation is based solely on Jesus bleeding and dying on the cross for me. You on the other hand are trying to rationalize voting for a anti Christian pro abortion kind of guy
He has no Christian testimony, I rest my case
You... don’t read Scripture very much, do you?
Jesus never said, ‘He who believes and gives a Testimony is saved.’
OKI-DAY, MISTER BLASPHEMER. BAI BAI.
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