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To: nikos1121
He's giving us an idea of what our forefathers were like.

You know, that's been in my head recently, and I think you're right. My understanding is that politics was pretty rough-and-tumble, and they certainly didn't all like each other. They were their own men and brought strong opinions to the table.

And, as a side note, with regard to the heated discussions about compromise lately, I think the distaste for any compromise among us comes from years of "compromise" for conservatives meaning getting completely rolled. Compromise between strong men produced the constitution, after all.

Oh, and thanks for posting these live threads. I look forward to them.

50 posted on 01/21/2016 5:08:23 AM PST by JustSurrounded
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To: JustSurrounded

I’ve got a question...

HOw is it that the elections in this country starting from the beginning were not fraught with abuse and fraud with people stuffing the ballot boxes?

I mean look at elections before the civil war, during Andy Jackson’s time when he was hated by the establishment, during Teddy Roosevelt and others? Or was there abuse, and did we have presidents who by right had lost the election only to win it by ballot stuffing?

I would like to think that the ballot box was sacred. That voting above all else was honest and fair, and afterwards the country united behind one person...

Does anyone know for sure?

Because what you say is true. The political cartoons, the articles, the speaking out in Congress about one another was down right savage.

TRump seems to be a throw back to that time of bluntness. I mean I cringe sometimes when he says things.

He reminds me of when Mike Ditka came to Chicago. Before then, we hadn’t beat Green Bay in years. He comes in and say’s we’re going to stomp those guys. I think Forrest Gregg was their coach. He called Gregg a cheat and some other names.

When we beat GB he used the Refrigerator to run the score on them..

Ditka’s bluntness at first was embarrassing. Then when we won games... it was contagious...to the point where the team comes out with the Super Bowl Shuffle...

I’m feeling the Donald Trump Shuffle every morning....


74 posted on 01/21/2016 6:56:38 AM PST by nikos1121 (December 25, 2016 will be the merriest Christmas of all for me.)
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