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To: SpaceBar

I didn’t mean to compare Trump with the poseur. I’m sorry I left that impression. Nothing could have been further from my mind. I’m focused on the primaries and getting the guy nominated with the best chance to win. That’s not Trump. At least as I read the lay of the land.

Also, like most folks, some of my posts are short and pithy, others long, reasoned and supported with links. Depends on the need. This is basically a drive-by thread, it got a drive by comment.

Take it or leave it, but no insult was intended to you or anyone else. It’s part of the give and take.


26 posted on 01/21/2016 12:33:55 AM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: John Valentine
I’m focused on the primaries and getting the guy nominated with the best chance to win. That’s not Trump. At least as I read the lay of the land.

I'd suggest you take another look around. Nobody else is drawing like Trump. On either side. Like him or not, he is attracting crowds from across various demographics.

35 posted on 01/21/2016 12:52:30 AM PST by onona (Blind Faith - originally released in 1969 on Polydor Records)
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To: John Valentine
I'm focused on the primaries and getting the guy nominated with the best chance to win. That's not Trump

I think Trump is our only hope of fending off -- or at least slowing down -- the march of the elites to socialism.

I would appreciate that you consider the points I made last week:

Consider for a moment what would likely happen if Donald Trump were to drop out of the race thinking, like far too many business and political leaders, that cheap labor and a fast-track political system is more important than America's borders, language and culture (acknowledgement to Michael Savage). I mean, really ... just stop and think about it for a minute.

It's true, Trump is not a leader -- a candidate -- with as strong conservative values that most of us here at FR long for, but by his words and actions it's clear that Donald Trump loves America.

So ... Trump drops out. At the very best, this results in Ted Cruz (who I hold in the highest regard) fighting for his viability in a national election against the newly-energized Jeb "I-don't-have-any-principles-but-it's-my-turn-to-be president" Bush, Marco "I-want-amnesty-for-illegal-aliens-but-I-can't-say-so-until-after-I'm-elected" Rubio, and (heaven help us) Chris "I-can't-get-that-image-of-him-hugging-obama-on-the-eve-of-the-last-election" Christie. And Cruz's three opponents will have the full support of not only the Democrat/Socialist Party and the MSM, but the Republican GOPE/RINO leadership as well which, I'm convinced, would like to destroy Cruz's political future.

Notwithstanding the phenomenal conservative success at the state and local level (due in no small part to obama's uncontrolled egotism and his undermining of his political party), the chance of our success at the national level is, at best, tenuous. You realize of course that in order to win this election we need to pick up states -- we need to gain electoral votes. The Democrat/Socialist Party is going into this election with a high electoral vote count advantage no matter who they run. If we cannot overcome that, if we cannot energize voters who don't know the difference -- and who are unlikely to take the time to understand the difference -- between honorable candidates such as Ted Cruz and, yes, Donald Trump, and communist candidates such as the duplicitous and cold-hearted Hillary Clinton or the feeble-minded Bernie Sanders, America's de-volution from a free country to a totalitarian state will not only continue, it will accelerate.

Despite Ted Cruz's appeal and his uncompromised love of the Constitution, unlike Donald Trump he doesn't (to me, at least) seem strong enough to overcome the powerful forces lined up against him -- including the GOPE/RINO leadership and influential members of his own party. I just don't see Ted Cruz gaining enough electoral votes to overcome the advantage the Democrat/Socialist Party has with the siren-song of "freebies" for all. It seems to me that it would be extremely difficult to pick up a state that voted for the communist/muslim sympathizer for a second term based on the results of his first term. Of course, if Bush or Rubio or Christie would prevail as the nominee, there is no doubt we would lose electoral votes from the last election ... an outcome the GOPE/RINO leadership appears quite willing to "live with".

So, I urge those who may not like Trump -- and by extension who dismiss conservatives such as me who support him -- to reconsider what they think of Trump's candidacy ... to spend objective, thoughtful time considering Trump's value to stopping the very real possibility of communist president selecting like-minded Supreme Court justices who would no doubt be confirmed by a complicit "opposition party".

183 posted on 01/22/2016 12:37:37 PM PST by glennaro
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