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To: Bratch

Trump is no Conservative so Palin’s support of a nonConservative says some will sacrifice Conservativism for slogans.


2 posted on 01/20/2016 3:39:44 PM PST by RginTN (Donald J Trump- why would the people of Ky want a rookie senator when they have Sen Mitch Mcconnell)
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To: RginTN

Under the GOP Conservatism IS a “slogan”. I say let them OWN it.

American Patriots are for

TRUMP 2016


4 posted on 01/20/2016 3:42:04 PM PST by Gasshog (Newly discovered element Trumpamentium causes a Chain Reaction of Testicular Fortitude!!)
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To: RginTN

So... I’ve been sitting here listening to Rush’s podcast and as I near the end of it... All I can say is that I’m uh... I can’t even describe how I’m feeling. The last few days we’ve seen the establishment sucking up to Trump, and Trump - acknowledging that fact - sucking up right back to them (especially on Ethanol). At the same time, Trumps been attacking and lying about an actual conservative in a fashion right out of the left’s playbook - and he’s been doing it so well that if he had a “D” next to his name the Democrat party would be proud.

What do we hear from Rush about it? Nothing. Maybe a very brief - if you blinked you would’ve missed it - reference to it. What we got instead was a 3 hour foray into the abstract. It was like I was listening to a high brow, 10,000 ft view, political science or philosophy lecture. What was the big theme? I’m not sure what his point was, but whatever it was, he seem to think it was profound (as if he had made a new discovery). If I had to quantify it - some folks who think they are conservative are really not (and don’t even understand what it really means). Wow! Who knew?

If Rush’s new discovery wasn’t mind blowing enough - he had happy nice things to say about Palins endorsement. Here we are in the midst of the Donald going all establishment, crony capitalist on us on one side. On the other side, we Rush laying out how Palin has been a champion of conservatism over the years, but yet her endorsement of Trump is perfectly reasonable.

You know this isn’t the first time Rush have gotten lost in abstraction. I’ve listen him do in often over the years. But it seems to me, that over the last six month, these little trips into the weeds have conveniently occurred at same time the Donald has been exposing who he really is. And each time it’s happened, Rush has briefly soft peddled the media buzz about Trump, so he can get right into spending serious time delving into his next big theory.


5 posted on 01/20/2016 3:43:40 PM PST by TBBT
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To: RginTN

The conservative movement is not as conservative as you think. That is the point.

Trump represents a realignment of the political landscape. Coming out of his victory and successes there will be a new paradigm.

I, for one, welcome it. The crooks in Washington (both sides) deserve every bit of ass-whooping coming their way.

That includes the Tea Party “conservative” sellouts.


6 posted on 01/20/2016 3:44:47 PM PST by jimbo807
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To: RginTN

Rush is neither justifying nor condoning Palins endorsement. He is however explaining it and I think he’s probably correct.

Unfortately we all know what happens when we sacrifice our conservative ideals in a move to beat the Dems at all cost.

It rarely works and when it does we’re sorry it did.


15 posted on 01/20/2016 3:56:55 PM PST by traderrob6
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To: RginTN

You commented two, TWO minutes after this was posted. If you’d bother to read the transcript, you wouldn’t be coming off so damned ignorant.


17 posted on 01/20/2016 3:59:22 PM PST by upsdriver (Palin/West)
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To: RginTN

You keep right on voting for the slogans than on Election day just stop bitching when noting ever changes in DC

You want to be a Housen&%$#%$ on the GOP Plantation, feel free.


40 posted on 01/20/2016 4:29:05 PM PST by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: RginTN

That is it be a good little tool for the GOPE. Let them buy your loyalty with slogans and sweet little sound bites every 2 years.

The rest of us have evolved. We realize the DC political/business/ media machine is going to have to be destroyed before we can start rebuilding


45 posted on 01/20/2016 4:40:05 PM PST by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: RginTN

Very well said


79 posted on 01/20/2016 5:48:36 PM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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To: RginTN

“Trump is no Conservative so Palin’s support of a nonConservative says some will sacrifice Conservativism for slogans.”

absolutely. Trump’s lack of social conservatism will kill his movement. Palin threw all the social conservatives under the bus in endorsing Trump, and broadcast herself as artificial on the topic.

It is the ONLY reason Cruz made his NY values comment. He knows social conservatism is very important for many groups of conservative. He wanted people to think about a Trump vote with the NY values Trump has.


96 posted on 01/20/2016 6:40:29 PM PST by doldrumsforgop
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To: RginTN
"Conservative says some will sacrifice Conservativism for slogans"

And some of us just want to throw the corrupt, putrid corpse over the side and wash down the deck.

Conservative Orthodoxy today is embodied in the philosophies and actions of the Republican party. Foreign wars with no strategic interest at stake, free trade with mercantilists who would never open their markets to us...and who pay $2/hr. A tax code designed to pick winners, and which lets large interests buy their own win of the Congressmen and Senators that write it. Pork. Bailouts. No borders. No deportations. No concern about cultural invasion. And a debt that will become catastrophe.

This is what Conservative Orthodoxy has become and it's high time we take it out back and shoot it.

111 posted on 01/20/2016 7:29:21 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: RginTN; All

So! YOU. STILL. DON’T. GET. IT!

You purists want nothing less than complete lock step with whatever each of YOU individually define conservatism to be.

You would have us all goose step to your tune - even while the country literally burns and collapses down around you - just as long as you can hold up your fist in defiance and rage on of your “purity” during the meltdown.

The total destruction of EVERYTHING we ever were or could ever hope to be, is but a minor thing; for you will happily perish in the flames, and gladly be reduced to ashes, because you can shout from your graves that never did you deviate in the slightest from your dogma ... Let the irony of your indifference forever echo above the chard destruction ...

Let the epitaph be chiseled into the cold granite of your monolithic stupidity:

“Here lies Conservatism - His prideful cause perished with his country, but at least he never gave one inch!”

And you, oh purist, with your willing accomplices, made damned sure that neither could any other, less you beat them into submission with mockery and calumny.

In your arrogance of certainty, you forgot one very important axiom of life - a tree that never bends in the wind, snaps.

The game is not about electing the the most conservative candidate ... The game is, and has always been about choosing the MOST ELECTABLE conservative candidate.

You do not get the “purist” candidate - because there is not one who can win a national election. No sane citizen of this Constitutional Representative Republic is so self-absorbed in their orthodoxy as to play the purist fiddle while the nation burns to the ground around them. We have a nation to save, and a Republic to restore - In that most gravest of causes, purity must take a back seat to the necessity of preservation.

We are now in a fight to the death with forces that mean to utterly destroy us, and all we have ever been. Let me remind you of those fateful words spoken in our past:

“... Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. ...” - Abraham Lincoln, The Gettysburg Address

We need ALL hands on deck - the purists and the not so pure; the ideologue and the pragmatist; Republican, Democrat, Libertarian, Independent, man, woman, young, old - every one who believes in what this country stands for ... We need every creed, color, race and ethnicity who, at their very core, are AMERICANS FIRST - purity be damned.

Donald Trump is not a straight down the list “pure” conservative - but then neither is Senator Ted Cruz, his protests to the contrary notwithstanding ... In fact, I doubt you will ever find such a one standing among us, because we each hold to a different idea of what defines that moniker of “conservative” - and that IS the point that Governor Palin was making in her endorsement speech.

On the other hand, the enemy we face is very “pure” - and very focused on one singular evil goal - our utter destruction ... He is the Dragon of fascist governance - call the beast “Smog” if you please, and ourselves the Hobbits. This entrenched and most powerful adversary desires that our rugged individualism, that guiding spirit which beats in every American heart, be burned out of existence and replaced with subservient collectivism ...

And those individuals, who demand nothing but “ideological purity,” are helping this adversary achieve his goal.

In this, our hour of trial, we need a champion - more than a Bilbo Baggins, we need a Braveheart ... We need a leader - one who will exploit the Dragon’s weakness, see the chink in his armor, and let fly the arrow of liberty ... Thus to slay the Dragon ... Not merely for the purists, but for all Americans - red, white and blue.


119 posted on 01/20/2016 7:45:38 PM PST by WTFOVR (I find myself exclaiming that expression quite often these days!)
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