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To: Finny
All this Trump vs Cruz stuff on FR is ridiculous, but then, candidate selection on FR has pretty much always gotten nasty here. I can't imagine how any of you think calling each other names will win over people to your candidate. Few of you are that silly, so what we're seeing is simply frustrated temper tantrums.

Here is an aspect of Trump support that I think a number of the FR Trump-haters are overlooking: whether Trump is a perfect conservative is immaterial. What he is, without doubt, is a huge monkey wrench in the entrenched system. There is no doubt that Trump has espoused some left-wing ideas in the past and may hold to some of those in the present - that is not even in question. However, any conservative with eyes to see and ears to hear must realize that this country has crossed a line that nobody even 20 years ago could have believed would be crossed. We now have the USSC declaring gay marriage a Constitutional right, we have a muslin-sympathizing, probably homosexual president who obviously despises everything the US has ever stood for, and we have nearly half the population on some kind of government assistance, many of them not even legal residents, let alone citizens.

The Republicans have done nothing in years if not decades to stop the movement of the country leftward. In fact, it is not unreasonable to surmise that the Republicans are every bit as contemptuous or dismissive of American values and Constitutional principles as Democrats are. This has been demonstrated plainly in their actions while they talk boldly about conservative values.

We are not going to get a true conservative American man in the White House until after the revolution because no such man survives the party vetting process.

Enter Donald Trump. By all appearances, he is a bull in the establishment china shop. Simply by running he has already shaken the establishment and one of the major pillars of their power: political correctness. Imagine the destruction of this putrid, vile establishment structure he could accomplish in four or even eight years in office. The thought is glorious to any conservative who has had to watch his noble country become a circus parade of queers and criminals.

It is said that we get the government we deserve. Well, if that is the case, then I would say we aren't going to get a strong, noble man of both principle and decorum in the White House any time soon because, frankly, we don't deserve one. A street fighter who will advance at least some of our cause and disrupt or destroy a portion of theirs is the best we can hope for.We didn't prevent the corruption when it would have been easy, done with a simple vote, and so now we have to slog through the muck and mire, covered in filth, until we fix this for the next generation or, failing that, we'll have to wade through blood to get there.
78 posted on 01/19/2016 11:59:58 AM PST by fr_freak
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To: fr_freak
We didn't prevent the corruption when it would have been easy, done with a simple vote, and so now we have to slog through the muck and mire, covered in filth, until we fix this for the next generation or, failing that, we'll have to wade through blood to get there.

Well said! Many people refuse to see that though. It's like they can't see the forest for the trees.

The country IS at a crossroads, and we've been good little pub-bots for decades. (Remember! Hold yer nose and vote!) We've seen how it works out when we do it their way. Maybe it's time to try it ours.

112 posted on 01/19/2016 1:07:01 PM PST by MamaTexan (I am a person as created by the Law of Nature, not a person as created by the laws of Man.)
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To: fr_freak
.....” whether Trump is a perfect conservative is immaterial”....

Oh but it is..and very much so.....because he's not a conservative...he's a Rino ...

What matters is we do have a candidate running who is and has proven and shown that he is and with much consistency...and that's Ted Cruz.....and people want to throw that opportunity away for a glitz and glamored celebrity who has no foundation or loyalty to anyone but himself and his own agenda in which to further establish his persona worldwide. You say that ...."Trump will advance 'at least some' of our cause"....and we're suppose 'to settle' for "some" crumbs off his table when we have opportunity to dine at the banquet itself???????...Fools is all I can say....stubborn and foolish fools!!! I knew the public has been for sometime setting themselves up for deception......I certainly didn't expect to see Freepers fall for it.....it's such a sad and disappointing time here and in our country to see people throw in the towel to this blathering fraud...to their own hurt as what will come of this bad judgement will be something entirely different then they hope or think.

122 posted on 01/19/2016 2:28:07 PM PST by caww
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