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To: Cboldt
No matter, take the dissents side. Cruz in in the 14th amendment alright. Which part? Born in the US, or naturalized?

In my view, Born ...........and subject to the jurisdiction thereof.

163 posted on 01/19/2016 1:42:25 AM PST by Cold Heat
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To: Cold Heat
-- In my view, Born ...........and subject to the jurisdiction thereof. --

There are two groups in the 14th amendment. This is settled law, by the way.

  1. born in the US and subject to the jurisdiction
  2. naturalized in the US and subject to the jurisdiction
The constitution also has citizens in Art IV, Sec. 2, citizens of the several states are citizens of the US.

A person who isn't in ANY of those groups (and this is what the majority in Bellei said), can be made a full fledged citizen by naturalization. The dissent says Bellei in in the 14th amendment, but not born in the US.

Bellei actually argued that he was born in the US! No kidding! He produced an Italian BC, and said, see, I was born in the US. Funny stuff.

167 posted on 01/19/2016 1:52:55 AM PST by Cboldt
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