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To: Enlightened1
Some of the Cruz supporters have double standards and hypocrisy when it comes to the U.S. Constitution.

Sorry, that is not the case. The situations with Obama and Cruz have different facts. There is no inconsistency in the standard that is being applied.

A person is either a citizen by consequence of their birth or because he or she naturalized later. The Constitution gives Congress the power to regulate naturalization which by default gives it the power to define who doesn't have to go through the naturalization process because the person is deemed a citizen by virtue of his or her birth. Based on the particular circumstances of their births, both Obama and Cruz didn't have to go through a naturalization process because they had met the requirements of the time to qualify as U.S. citizens by virtue of their birth.

That was the issue during the hub-bub over Obama's Hawaiian birth certificate. If he had been born outside of the U. S., he would have had to have been naturalized to become a U. S. citizen because his mother would not have been able to convey citizenship to him. Cruz' birth situation was different because his mom was old enough to convey her U. S. citizenship on him.

Absolute 100% hypocrisy

No. It is absolute 100% misunderstanding by you of your opponents' position.

101 posted on 01/18/2016 7:04:36 PM PST by CommerceComet (Ignore the GOP-e. Cruz to victory in 2016.)
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To: CommerceComet

“Sorry, that is not the case. The situations with Obama and Cruz have different facts. There is no inconsistency in the standard that is being applied.”

Wrong. You have your facts wrong, so your conclusion is wrong.

“A person is either a citizen by consequence of their birth or because he or she naturalized later.”

No, you are wrong. Senator Ted Cruz is a U.S. citizen by the authority of the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1952, which he used to acquire U.S. citizenship by naturalization at birth.

Barack Hussein Obama did not acquire U.S. citizenship at birth and is probably not a U.S. citizen except by the fraudulent filing of a falsified birth record.

“The Constitution gives Congress the power to regulate naturalization which by default gives it the power to define who doesn’t have to go through the naturalization process because the person is deemed a citizen by virtue of his or her birth. Based on the particular circumstances of their births, both Obama and Cruz didn’t have to go through a naturalization process because they had met the requirements of the time to qualify as U.S. citizens by virtue of their birth.”

No, you are wrong. Senator Ted Cruz is a U.S. citizen by the authority of the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1952, which he used to acquire U.S. citizenship by naturalization at birth.

Barack Hussein Obama did not acquire U.S. citizenship at birth and is probably not a U.S. citizen except by the fraudulent filing of a falsified birth record.

“That was the issue during the hub-bub over Obama’s Hawaiian birth certificate. If he had been born outside of the U. S., he would have had to have been naturalized to become a U. S. citizen because his mother would not have been able to convey citizenship to him.”

Yes, that is correct.

“Cruz’ birth situation was different because his mom was old enough to convey her U. S. citizenship on him.”

Yes, Ted Cruz acquired U.S. citizenship because the U.S. immigration and Naturalization Act of 1952 provided that the child of one U.S. parent and one alien parent could be naturalized at birth as a U.S. citizen when other requirements were met. Consequently, Ted Cruz is a naturalized U.S. citizen. Arnold Scharzenegger is a naturalized U.S. citizen, and he is not eligible to be POTUS. Ted Cruz is a naturalized U.S. citizen, and he too is not eligible to be POTUS.

“Absolute 100% hypocrisy”

When you deny Ted Cruz is a naturalized U.S. citizen, who is also not a natural born citizen of the U.S. and thereby ineligible to be POTUS.

“No. It is absolute 100% misunderstanding by you of your opponents’ position.”

On the contrary....


137 posted on 01/18/2016 8:31:38 PM PST by WhiskeyX
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