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To: dragnet2; AuntB; Cincinatus' Wife; lodi90; Guenevere; Liz; Jane Long; RitaOK

Look, I’m a Trump supporter, but hey, what are the definitive issues here? Cruz and Co. working on setting up a campaign ad? Certainly not for “trustworthiness”. Maybe lack of spontaneity. But we must look elsewhere for trustworthiness.

What matters, as it did eight years ago with a guy with a weird name, Barack Obama, is his voting record in the Senate. There seems to be some question about how Cruz voted in some of these key issues. THOSE are the most important things when it comes to trustworthiness - his Senate record.

It actually reminds me of Obama. So many act so surprised about what Obama did after he was President. But Obama’s public record of consistently voting in the Senate to the left of Socialist Party Caucus member, Senator Bernie Sanders, was available for all to see. What Obama did as President should have been totally expected based on his Senate record.

If we are going to stand for something, let’s stand for the right thing and if we are going to question a candidate’s trustworthiness, let’s use actual factual records, not personal preference, as the standard. Else we make ourselves look foolish and give the opposition ammunition against us and who/what we’re standing for.


223 posted on 01/19/2016 8:43:00 AM PST by Jim W N
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To: Jim 0216

Joe said on MJ this morning, “IF IT WERE ANY OTHER CANDIDATE BUT TRUMP, THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA WOULD HAVE ALREADY CALLED THIS RACE,...OVER!”


224 posted on 01/19/2016 8:58:49 AM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: Jim 0216

“Look, I’m a Trump supporter, but hey, what are the definitive issues here? Cruz and Co. working on setting up a campaign ad”?

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You missed the point. How in tarnation is it possible Cruz or his team could allow this to be leaked or actually would release it themselves?

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If folks have not see this, they ought to watch this.
It’s only 3 minutes featuring Mr. Cruz himself.

Cruz trustworthy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfKwc5lpZZ0


225 posted on 01/19/2016 9:16:05 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Jim 0216
Look, I’m a Trump supporter, but hey, what are the definitive issues here? Cruz and Co. working on setting up a campaign ad? Certainly not for “trustworthiness”. Maybe lack of spontaneity. But we must look elsewhere for trustworthiness.

I don't find either Trump or Cruz trustworthy on one of their signature issues: immigration. Cruz has talked about increasing quotas for legal immigrants in the past and has talked out of both sides of his mouth on the issue of whether illegals should be given a path to legal residency (though as far as I know he's always opposed a path to citizenship). Trump talks tough and says all of the right things now, but 4 years ago he was attacking Mitt Romney for making the "self-deportation" remarks, accusing him of "alienating Hispanic Republicans" with rhetoric that could have come from Jeb Bush's mouth (and back in 2000, he wanted to run as a Reform Party candidate in order to stop the "xenophobic" Pat Buchanan).

So the bottom line is that I find neither of them trustworthy. However, I find Rubio, Jeb, etc. even less trustworthy, so I would happily settle for either Cruz or Trump if that means blocking the establishment candidates. With Trump or Cruz, the right things may or may not get done. With Jeb, Rubio, etc. I know for a fact that they won't be on my side.

229 posted on 01/19/2016 9:44:03 AM PST by ek_hornbeck
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