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To: Cboldt

“It’s not nonsense, unless you find the constitution and the identity of a nation to be nonsense”

What a strawman.

Cruz being a NBC is entirely consistent with the Constitution, case law, and our nations history.


28 posted on 01/18/2016 10:01:20 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

> Cruz being a NBC is entirely consistent with the Constitution, case law, and our nations history.

To the contrary, there is the statute itself, the entire history of U.S. naturalization statutes, the precedents in Bellei and in Minor, the dicta in Ark, the exemplar case of Churchill, all of which show that he is a citizen by statute, i.e. a naturalized citizen, and not eligible to be President.


34 posted on 01/18/2016 10:05:50 AM PST by Ray76
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To: driftdiver
I don't recall if you and I have had a go around on this. I do recall the handles of a few people I hold in contempt after engaging in debate, because I concluded they were willful liars.

There is a pretty big group of posers here who hold as you do, that I consider friends. I've asked them, respectfully, to not debate the subject with me because it carries of risk of hard feelings.

I am stuck on my position. I am confident it is correct. I have studied the law. I understand the rhetorical and logical tricks that subvert the way the constitution and naturalization cooperate. Just saying, I didn't get here by some blind "appeal to authority." I studied it, thought about it on my own. My bases and argument have been challenged, and I appreciate the efforts of all my opponents in argument.

But now, here, there can be no benefit to the two of us discussing this point.

I have no hard feeling if you as adhered to your point of view as I am to mine. That sort of difference is to be expected. If it didn't exist, I'd be worried, because humanity is fallible as all get out.

38 posted on 01/18/2016 10:08:29 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: driftdiver

I notices a typo — I did not mean to say “posers” I meant “posters.” I don;t think your argument, at this point, is undertaken with bad faith, or on you pretending to be something other than what you are. Sorry about that, most unfortunate typo.


40 posted on 01/18/2016 10:10:13 AM PST by Cboldt
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