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To: napscoordinator
I read your link. Horrible. He signed it because his veto would be overridden. Big Woop. It is easy to say, Oops....sorry.....

It was by no means 'oops, sorry' - What he set up was an extremely narrow exception - trying to head off full blown abortion. It caught him by surprise that his 'panel of doctors' would so egregiously abuse the allowance by way of rubber-stamping. Not to mention that he was rather inexperienced as a governor at the time (5 mos.into his first term).

What you said though is: 'And yes Reagan was a baby killer until he saw the light.....can’t get worse then that'. That article and many more deny your claim. Reagan was always pro-life. He was NEVER Pro-choice. That early mistake (which he fully admitted, and it grieved him) simply galvanized him against all treachery in the matter, and he remains the father of the modern Pro-Life movement today. No president has ever been as unabashedly pro-life as he.

same with being the only President to sign Amnesty. Look I like the guy but he made two mistakes in his offices. And trust me it would be heavily discussed here today if things were the same and Reagan was running.

Your 'amnesty' comment is another whole kettle of fish - and Reagan made more mistakes than those - Usually by being too trusting of his opponents. The salient point is this: He was a devout and principled man, who tried mightily to do the right thing according to principle. And his presidency, for all it's flaws, was the greatest time in modern history because of his principled stand. Rather than criticizing his mistakes, imagine if those principles had not been there to govern him.

And the comparison is without merit because, as I have stated before, Trump has no indication that he adheres to Conservative principles at all. Nary a one.

So Trump will make our country better through heavy hand which we need right now.

By what criteria? By what proof? He's a blowhard and changes positions like the wind. Even within the last week, you are now supporting King Corn, the very thing that Trump accused Cruz of doing, while Cruz's position (even in dire straits) has never changed.

And now you are supporting touch-back amnesty - right along the lines of the Gang of Eight bill that Cruz fought so hard against (only to be accused of being for it by Trump) - Even while Cruz's position has not changed a whit.

No, trump is a big government liberal. He is not going to do anything about Life. He is not going to do anything to protect marriage. He likes single-payer insurance, Yet you trust him to dismantle Obamacare? He's already moved on immigration. He's already moved on subsidies. He's a deal maker. That's what he does. That means compromise. Without Conservative principle, what won't be on the table, open to negotiation?

You are being played. How much more big gov is going to be acceptable to you? Where's your tipping point?

Also, we have the Supreme Court to think about and I want Trump to be in charge because I don’t trust Cruz to pick the conservatives.

Riiight. Conservatives like Trump's whacko left sister whom he has endorsed as an example. How could Cruz possibly do worse than that?

There isn't any sense in talking about this, man. I respect you, but for the life of me, I cannot get a bearing on what you see in the man. How you can possibly expect a NY liberal Yankee to deliver up the Conservative solutions we so desperately need is wholly beyond my ken. It's simple math. Look to the record. That's what Conservatives do.

72 posted on 01/19/2016 10:45:21 PM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: roamer_1

I understand your Reagan points and it probably did happen that way and I appreciate all the great things he did to our country. He was a very strong leader at a time that we needed badly.

Corn ethanol never caused me any worry. Could care less about it but think we should not have different types of gas anyway. The Democrats did that silliness back in the day.

The only reason I am 100 percent for Trump is because of Strength. We need a strong president after Obama. He is going to take care of terrorism and immigration. If nothing else, that is the two most important thing that is facing our demise. If we don’t handle those two things we have no country.

The Supreme Court is important also and I’d truth Trump over Hillary or Bernie.

Cruz is just not ready to be President. I don’t think he is strong enough on immigration or Terrorism. He’d be great on Supreme Court nominees, but our countries future is based on defeating terrorism mostly.

That is really the bottom line for me. If Cruz is our nominee, I am voting for him. So it is a win/win for all of us no matter who wins.

I have to admit that the Sarah endorsement and her staying in Iowa will pretty much make this race over as Trump will most likely win Iowa now.

But again, time to tell. Another debate January 28 and that could change EVERYTHING!


73 posted on 01/19/2016 10:58:40 PM PST by napscoordinator
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