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To: Cboldt

— If two people were born in Guam IN 1953 (ACCORDING TO THE LAW YOU POSTED) to American citizens who were citizens of Guam, are those two people American citizens at the moment of their birth? -
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Yes. I would add that the parents do not have to be US citizens. They can be citizens of any country. The parents are required to be subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. That is not the same as US citizen.
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OK, these two American citizens (since birth in 1953), let’s call them Joseph & Mary, get married and have one child born in Guam and a second child born in Hawaii and a third child born in Pennsylvania. Are all three of Joseph & Mary’s children American citizens from the moment they are born?


306 posted on 01/17/2016 7:33:39 PM PST by House Atreides (Cruzin' [BUT NO LONGER Trumping'] or losin'!)
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To: House Atreides
-- OK, these two American citizens (since birth in 1953), let's call them Joseph & Mary, get married and have one child born in Guam and a second child born in Hawaii and a third child born in Pennsylvania. Are all three of Joseph & Mary's children American citizens from the moment they are born? --

I hope this doesn't run for like six generations or something. I gave you the legal principle. It's easy to follow.

Curley Moe and Larry, the children of Joseph and Mary, are all US citizens at birth.

The source of citizenship for Curly (born in Guam) is the statute.

The source of citizenship for Moe and Larry is the 14th amendment (born in the US), assuming Moe was born after Hawaii was made a state - I think that's a safe assumtion, seeing as how Joseph and Mary were born in 1953, and Hawaii became a state on August 21, 1959. PA has been a state for a long time.

There is a residence requirement, not contentious, I don't believe. Joseph and Mary were permanent residents of Guam when Curley was born, of Hawaii when Moe was born, and of Pennsylvania when Larry was born. They were not just passing through. Just as an aside, "permanent residence" is another one of the legal things that isn't exactly what it's name implies.

So far we have Joseph (source and nation of citizenship irrelevant. He could be Tasmanian) and Mary (another alien citizen) giving birth to naturalized citizen Curley, and citizens Moe and Larry.

319 posted on 01/17/2016 7:52:34 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: House Atreides; Cboldt

— If two people were born in Guam IN 1953 (ACCORDING TO THE LAW YOU POSTED) to American citizens who were citizens of Guam, are those two people American citizens at the moment of their birth? -
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Yes. I would add that the parents do not have to be US citizens. They can be citizens of any country. The parents are required to be subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. That is not the same as US citizen.
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OK, these two American citizens (since birth in 1953), let’s call them Joseph & Mary, get married and have one child born in Guam and a second child born in Hawaii and a third child born in Pennsylvania. Are all three of Joseph & Mary’s children American citizens from the moment they are born?
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Cboldt, since you haven’t had a chance to answer yet, let me add a fourth child of Joseph & Mary’s. That child of these two citizens was born in Germany (in a German hospital—not on a military base). Same question to that 4th child.


320 posted on 01/17/2016 7:54:43 PM PST by House Atreides (Cruzin' [BUT NO LONGER Trumping'] or losin'!)
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