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To: Mollypitcher1

Because what you think is so clear is absolutely not. I’ve read enough through it to realize that. The mere fact that this whole kerfuffle is on-going is absolute proof positive that the standard is not workable and needs to be clarified.


302 posted on 01/17/2016 7:27:00 PM PST by Oceander
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To: Oceander

Read Vattel. It could not be more clear if you have two working cells between the ears.


324 posted on 01/17/2016 7:57:36 PM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Oceander

Then you have rocks in your head. It is perfectly clear. Did you have reading with comprehension in your school? Obviously not!


328 posted on 01/17/2016 8:00:03 PM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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358 posted on 01/17/2016 8:37:44 PM PST by bushpilot2
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To: Oceander

Is Vattel in the Constitution? No. If not, then his value is persuasive only. That does not get rid of the ambiguity.

Because what you think is so clear is absolutely not. I’ve read enough through it to realize that.
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What is a natural born citizen? Where did the framers come up with this term? Where was it used before? So many questions, and the answers are right there if anyone wishes to search out the truth.

The term Natural born Citizen appears in our Constitution, in Article 1, Section 2, with these words, “No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.”

Vaattel ss212-Des Citoyens et naturels. Citizens and natural born citizens:
Les naturels, ou indigenes, sont ceux qui sont nes dans le pays, de parents citoyens.

Translation: The naturels, or natural born, are those who are born in the country, of parents citizens.

If that is not clear, i don’t know what is.


370 posted on 01/17/2016 8:53:21 PM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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