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To: John Valentine

But we need to end the divisive and stupid arguments about the meaning of ‘natural born’.
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Divisive? Stupid? From the founding until 2008, the pople of the united States were protected from a foreign president by this “divisive and stupid” phrase, Natural born citizen. What has happened to our country since this foreigner has been president? Common sense would dictate the continuation of natural Born Citizen as the REQUIREMENT to be president.
The country has been divisive since its birth. Lets stay that way for another 200 years. To be otherwise is to be a slave.


116 posted on 01/17/2016 5:12:32 PM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Mollypitcher1
You might have a point if it weren't for the continual bastardization and and selective memory about the meaning of the term.

At this point the argumentation has become stupid and divisive, and I offer you as a prime example of everything that is wrong about this debate.

You and those who think like you have successfully elevated jus sanguinis to the point to where a person whose father was Kenyan can be considered a natural born citizen merely due the accident of his birth on American soil (setting aside for the moment the citizenship of his mother).

Vattel, The Law of nations I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country."

144 posted on 01/17/2016 5:20:12 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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