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There's a decent chance the US government [taxpayers] will bail out the oil industry
Business Insider ^ | 14 January 2016 | Akin Oyedele

Posted on 01/17/2016 10:20:35 AM PST by Lorianne

The US government could end up having to bail out the oil industry.

In a note to clients on Thursday Greg Valliere, chief global strategist at Horizon Investments, wonders if the oil industry won't get lifeline similar to what Washington gave the banking industry during the financial crisis.

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moral hazard anyone?
1 posted on 01/17/2016 10:20:35 AM PST by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

No more bailouts! None for oil. None for Puerto Rico. These just artificially prop up the markets making the eventual collapse even bigger.


2 posted on 01/17/2016 10:23:48 AM PST by patq
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To: Lorianne

What is the source of the money? Certainly not America. We are broke.


3 posted on 01/17/2016 10:24:17 AM PST by healy61
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To: Lorianne

I think it’s reasonable to discuss it and possibly act. I don’t want our oil industry crashing. That seems like a national security threat.


4 posted on 01/17/2016 10:24:39 AM PST by RC one (race baiting and demagoguery-if you're a Democrat it's what you do.)
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To: Lorianne

If there is an industry that should be bailed out it’s the oil industry.

Energy independence is the highest matter of National Security.


5 posted on 01/17/2016 10:24:43 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

This is not about energy.
It is about risky investments based on high leverage.

We’d be bailing out high-flying gamblers, not the energy industry.


6 posted on 01/17/2016 10:29:08 AM PST by Lorianne
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To: dfwgator

“If there is an industry that should be bailed out it’s the oil industry.”

If an industry is important, it should not be bailed out by government. Rather government should get out of the way, reduce regulation, taxation, and other things that impede the industry.

“Energy independence is the highest matter of National Security.”

It is, which is exactly why government should not bail out it’s favored cronies, favored political contributors, and those offering back room and under-the-table deals to Congressmen, regulators and other government officials.

So, if it’s important to National Security - let it happen, and don’t get in the way.

But what is really happening is the government is bailing out the banks - AGAIN!


7 posted on 01/17/2016 10:29:31 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: Lorianne

Not saying in every case, but I wouldn’t dismiss a bailout of the energy sector out of hand.

For every other industry, I would absolutely never consider bailing them out.


8 posted on 01/17/2016 10:31:20 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Lorianne
They lobbied hard and got the ban on exporting lifted but now want bailed out because energy independence is important ?

Talk about having your cake and eating it, too. The fact is it'll come down to more tax on gasoline and diesel to bail them out, just what the economy needs; energy staying more expensive than the market price dictates.

9 posted on 01/17/2016 10:33:16 AM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: dfwgator

So what about the coal industry? No calls for helping them! The coal miners are the highest paid of any of the workers in an energy sector right? Just saying.

Get the government out of business except to keep them from ripping people off.


10 posted on 01/17/2016 10:34:57 AM PST by huldah1776
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To: Lorianne

He who takes the profits also takes the risks.


11 posted on 01/17/2016 10:45:43 AM PST by Petrosius
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To: Lorianne

When my business was paying $3.70 a gallon for the fuel we needed, and every waitress in North Dakota was driving a new F-350, no one offered me a bailout, nor did I ask for one.


12 posted on 01/17/2016 10:49:23 AM PST by Eric Pode of Croydon (I wish someone would tell me what "diddy wah diddy" means....)
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon

People rarely ask for bailouts when times are good.


13 posted on 01/17/2016 10:50:47 AM PST by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

That would be INdecent.


14 posted on 01/17/2016 10:56:23 AM PST by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali sono feccia.)
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To: Lorianne

Why? The “oil industry “ has been through this numerous times since the 80’s so it isn’t something new.


15 posted on 01/17/2016 11:00:20 AM PST by Double Tap
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“When my business was paying $3.70 a gallon for the fuel we needed, and every waitress in North Dakota was driving a new F-350, no one offered me a bailout, nor did I ask for one.”

Good point. With the great rewards come the big risks. They need to deal with it.

Ultimately, US oil will effectively cap world oil prices, I’m guessing at around $60-70 in today’s terms. With modern fuel efficient cars, we can live just fine with that indefinitely.


16 posted on 01/17/2016 11:27:52 AM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day".)
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To: Double Tap
Why? The “oil industry “ has been through this numerous times since the 80’s so it isn’t something new.

What? You don't remember the oil industory bailout package Congress passed back in 1986, when oil prices were hovering at less than $10/bbl?





































I don't either. ;-)
17 posted on 01/17/2016 11:46:00 AM PST by Milton Miteybad (I am Jim Thompson. {Really.})
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To: Lorianne
Not. In a. Million. Years. Gasoline prices are at the root of the 2008 collapse. Credit card defaults, mortgage defaults, business failures all happened in large part because our gas tanks were eating us out of house and home. Guess who were REALLY making out like bandits while all this was going on? They should have put some money aside for a rainy day. WAA WAA WAA IT'S NOT OUR FAULT THERE WAS A MARKET DOWNTURN. MOMM-EEE! Suck it up, fellas. Now, it's your turn.
18 posted on 01/17/2016 12:00:09 PM PST by KGeorge
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To: Lorianne

We have bankruptcy procedures; let them go through bankruptcy. The dirty secret is that we wouldn’t be bailing out the companies that can’t pay their debt; we would be bailing out those who lent them the money; largely big banks, pension funds, etc.

Let the oil companies eat cake.


19 posted on 01/17/2016 12:05:18 PM PST by JustTheTruth
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There is a hell of a lot more than “energy” when it comes to “oil” (petroleum). Besides the fuel it can be refined into, petroleum is used for damn near everything we use in one form or another. The “oil” industry collapsing has reaching consequences most cannot begin to fathom and will touch everything in our everyday lives.


20 posted on 01/17/2016 12:10:21 PM PST by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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