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To: WhiskeyX
So, according to you, in order to know who is and who is not a natural born citizen, you must know the mind of God.

Good luck with that.

For me, I prefer a more rational approach.

200 posted on 01/16/2016 11:49:43 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: John Valentine

“So, according to you, in order to know who is and who is not a natural born citizen, you must know the mind of God.”

Of course not, that is just being silly. The criteria were very simple. When the constitution was written you had to have a father whose sole allegiance was to the United States of America and a mother who acquired U.S. citizenship at birth or by marriage to her U.S. citizen husband. You had to be born in the sole allegiance of the sovereign United States of America; which you could do by being born in a State or incorporated U.S. Territory, or by being born abroad in a diplomatic immunity that prevented birth in the local allegiance of the foreign sovereign. Under such circumstances the birth is natural born, because the birthright was governed by the natural fact there can only be one sovereign to whom allegiance was owed at birth. Vattel described it well. Under the principles of natural law and the Law of Nations, this type of birth was the foundation of the existence of the state, nation, and culture. It was the natural way in which a nation maintained its identity and existence. Because aliens and foreigners came from outside this natural setting, manmade laws had to be used to set forth the rules by which they could be accepted into this group of people who were born within the nation and its domain. This natural state was traditionally attributed to divine origins and divine right.


207 posted on 01/17/2016 12:23:49 AM PST by WhiskeyX
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