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To: Ray76

You may find it ridiculous. I find it a practical reality. To undo the current evolution of the political question doctrine, you would need to force the issue, perhaps an Article 5 amendment. But Cruz has virtually no chance of being disqualified under the present process. And he shouldn’t be. He’s not the foreign threat the framers of the Constitution were concerned about. No one born and raised American was the target of the NBC clause. That’s what is truly ridiculous.

Peace,

SR


195 posted on 01/16/2016 11:19:17 PM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Springfield Reformer

He is a citizen by statute, i.e. naturalized. The fact is, the foreign-born children of citizens have always required naturalization.


196 posted on 01/16/2016 11:25:29 PM PST by Ray76
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To: Springfield Reformer

A person born out of the jurisdiction of the United States can only become a citizen by being naturalized

either by 

    treaty, as in the case of the annexation of foreign territory, 

or by 

    authority of congress, exercised 
	
    either by 
	
        declaring certain classes of persons to be citizens, as in the enactments conferring citizenship upon foreign-born children of citizens, 
	
    or by 

        enabling foreigners individually to become citizens by proceedings in the judicial tribunals, as in the ordinary provisions of the naturalization acts.

U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649, 702-703

197 posted on 01/16/2016 11:26:05 PM PST by Ray76
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To: Springfield Reformer

“You may find it ridiculous. I find it a practical reality. To undo the current evolution of the political question doctrine, you would need to force the issue, perhaps an Article 5 amendment. But Cruz has virtually no chance of being disqualified under the present process. And he shouldn’t be. He’s not the foreign threat the framers of the Constitution were concerned about. No one born and raised American was the target of the NBC clause. That’s what is truly ridiculous.”

There is nothing ridiculous about it whatsoever. It is a deadly serious problem, which has already cost innumerable innocent lives unnecessarily.

president Chester Arthur was not even a U.S. citizen. His father was born in Northern Ireland. He emigrated to Canada. Chester Arthur’s mother was a natural born U.S. citizen living in Vermont and close to the Canadian border. She met William Arthur in Quebec, Canada and married him in Canada. upon her marriage to her husband, a British citizen, she lost her U.S. citizenship and also became a British citizen. They had a daughter, who was born a British-Canadian citizen. They moved to Vermont. Chester Arthur was born in Vermont with two British citizen parents. The U.S. law prevailing at the time of the birth of Chester Arthur did not grant U.S. citizenship to Chester Arthur, because the laws doing so were not legislated until long after his birth. Furthermore, even after such laws were passed, Chester Arthurs citizenship would have been a naturalization at birth, which is not the natural born citizenship required to qualify for President or Vice President.

Chester Arthur knew he was not a U.S. citizen and did not meet the qualifications as a natural born citizen, which is presumably why he destroyed his personal papers to cover up these facts. As a consequence of the Constitution’s eligibility clause being abrogated, Chester Arthur appointed a Supreme court Justice who deliberately wrote an erroneous majority decision for the Supreme Court which resulted in the Wong Kim Ark being used to allow the anchor babies responsible for so much of the illegal immigration problem being experienced today. If someone had taken the responsibility to bar Chester Arthur from the Office of the Vice President and the Office of the President, there are thousands of U.S. citizens who would not have been cruelly killed and murdered by illegal aliens in the present era.

No matter how anyone tries to twist and turn it, lawlessness begets lawlessness, whether it is a Democrat or a Republican doing the lawlessness for whatever reason. this lawlessness has to stop. It is destroying the Republic and threatening the Bill of Rights.


205 posted on 01/17/2016 12:06:01 AM PST by WhiskeyX
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