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The obviously phony story of the Iran capture of USN boats: WTH really happened?
self | january 16 2016 | beebuster2000

Posted on 01/16/2016 7:21:38 AM PST by beebuster2000

the story pushed by the Administration is obviously phony. to believe it, you have to believe:

-both boats lost GPS and all ded reckoning ability

-both lost radio and back up radio

-both lost engine power

-both were lost on radar by the fleet

all of which happening at the same time is flatly impossible.

so, what is the real story?


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KEYWORDS: iran; lying
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To: beebuster2000

Maybe we need to scrap those troublesome boats and get some Boston Whalers. The BWs seem more capable


41 posted on 01/16/2016 8:32:27 AM PST by wrench
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To: lacrew
I’m also leaning towards an LT screw up. These boats were traveling from port to port...which makes me think that no particular ship was in charge of it, monitoring its position,etc...and they strayed too close to this island. What I don’t understand is why they didn’tnfight back. Their captors could have easily shot them all in the head.

My guess is that the rules of engagement are so tight and they were so outgunned that they decided not to shoot.

The mullahs with the yacht catalogs intervened and slapped down the Revolutionary Guard commanders so they can get their toys on schedule.

They have lottery fever just like we did earlier in the week except they KNOW they're getting the money if they just don't screw it up.

42 posted on 01/16/2016 8:35:05 AM PST by Snickering Hound
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To: IMR 4350

Go back further to Carter and his non answer to islamic terrorism in the 70’s.

What we have is three feckless presidents, Carter never understood the islamic mindset,he never understood, the only thing barbarians understand, is force.

Clinton too busy shaking down foreign govts,

Obama either a terrorist fellow traveller or American hater, actually he is probably both.


43 posted on 01/16/2016 8:36:50 AM PST by Nailbiter
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
Hmmm... A GPS error on both boats? This is flat out impossible. Were both boats experiencing engine failure? Just how likely is that? If not shouldn't the functional boat have taken the crippled boat in tow? How about radio contact? Why didn't the crews request cover from the other US warships constantly patrolling in the area? Did the heavily armed crews just surrender rather than force a confrontation and if so, why? Would the Iranians really risk firing on two US military craft? I doubt it. This is absolute BS folks! The proverbial steaming pile does not due justice to this complete fiasco.
44 posted on 01/16/2016 8:41:55 AM PST by Desron13
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To: txrefugee

Louie Gohmert said on TV the other day that Ash Carter said he and Kerry contacted the Iranians and told them that they had two boats lost and could they help find them. So basically dropped a dime on their own military. I think that’s called treason. This was another publicity stunt to coordinate with OMuslim’s SOTU address and prisoner swap and shut everybody up about lifting the sanctions on the $150 billion.


45 posted on 01/16/2016 8:42:52 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

One would expect sailors to be summoned by Congress to find out what happened.

Naaaah!
Ryan is too busy growing beard.


46 posted on 01/16/2016 9:01:34 AM PST by Leo Carpathian (FReeeeepeesssssed)
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To: beebuster2000

Travis McGee (Matthew Bracken) tells the sorry story here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3384432


47 posted on 01/16/2016 9:02:16 AM PST by citizen (There is no R Party or D Party-They are all in a Uni-Party...call it The DC Party-And America loses!)
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To: citizen

Try again: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3384433/posts


48 posted on 01/16/2016 9:03:45 AM PST by citizen (There is no R Party or D Party-They are all in a Uni-Party...call it The DC Party-And America loses!)
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To: beebuster2000
Pure political theater conjured up by our POS SOS and the Iranians to calm the US sheeple that the Iranians are good guys who can be trusted, just when the hundred fifty Billion bucks is being handed over. When that backfired, they went ahead and released the four hostages today.
49 posted on 01/16/2016 9:03:53 AM PST by Company Man (I say we take off and Trump the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
This was another publicity stunt to coordinate with OMuslim's SOTU address and prisoner swap and shut everybody up about lifting the sanctions on the $150 billion.

Precisely.

50 posted on 01/16/2016 9:06:48 AM PST by Company Man (I say we take off and Trump the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.)
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To: beebuster2000

It is four days ago that it happened and still no details? Preparations being made for a “plausible” story?


51 posted on 01/16/2016 9:26:15 AM PST by 353FMG
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To: beebuster2000

And we evidently don’t put compasses in boats these days. Ancient mariners did well on the unknown seas without GPS, satellites, fleet radars and communication equipment. Doubt these were even sailors dressed as they were.


52 posted on 01/16/2016 9:27:50 AM PST by mcshot (The "Greatest Generation" would never have allowed the trashing of our Republic.)
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To: beebuster2000

did iran test a jamming device to defuse all those electronics. When i was a boater we always kept track on a chart and via log so that if needed we could proceed without electronics. Is this even taught today?


53 posted on 01/16/2016 9:29:39 AM PST by kvanbrunt2
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To: Desron13

“This is flat out impossible.”

Not with a jammer.

http://gpsworld.com/massive-gps-jamming-attack-by-north-korea/


54 posted on 01/16/2016 9:29:56 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (I think Hillary looks tired, don't you?)
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To: mad_as_he$$

“This is flat out impossible.”

Not with a jammer.

http://gpsworld.com/massive-gps-jamming-attack-by-north-korea/
that’s what i think it’s back to loran


55 posted on 01/16/2016 9:50:05 AM PST by kvanbrunt2
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To: kvanbrunt2

I was just wondering if the loran system is still functioning and maintained. Then would these boats have receivers? Looks like it is dead.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LORAN


56 posted on 01/16/2016 9:59:34 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (I think Hillary looks tired, don't you?)
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To: Desron13

I know....what is being reported makes no sense.

And then they change it completely, and report a different version of events.

None of what is being released to the public passes the smell test.


57 posted on 01/16/2016 10:09:44 AM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (Trump or Cruz in 2016. No others need apply.)
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To: kvanbrunt2

i don’t believe the military grad gps is easily jammable, its not the same as the civilian system. plus, any navy boat is supposed to keep a running log so DED reckoning can be done just in case electronics fail. i find it impossible skippers on both boats make the same mistake at the same time. not going to happen.


58 posted on 01/16/2016 10:16:09 AM PST by beebuster2000
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To: beebuster2000
Like the twilight zone their compasses just went round and round. Submitted for your approval


59 posted on 01/16/2016 10:16:23 AM PST by Mike Darancette (Obama Rules of Engagement: Hands up Don't Shoot)
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To: beebuster2000

And after both suffering these problems... they were captured by 3 guys on the SS Minnow....


60 posted on 01/16/2016 10:17:00 AM PST by kjam22
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