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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

I searched a while to find that one page to counter the dozens that was similar to the one she posted...that’s how prevalent the bias is out there.

Plus, it’s a “gray” program...some you get to hear about, some you don’t...and the media makes damn sure you hear about anything negative.

Should have seen the U-2 thread from a couple of years back...more ignorance and stupidity on that thread alone to fill the Great Lakes...

This is why I rarely, if ever engage on aviation threads any more. People don’t want to learn, they want to quibble, they want to denigrate...they’re not interested in learning the facts.


67 posted on 01/15/2016 9:15:57 AM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: SZonian

Yep, and I jumped right into it on this one. I should know better, most people have their opinions the second they get to a thread. They’ll play up the posts that agree with their preconceived notions and attack anybody who differs, even here at FR.

You should see the article I posted a few years ago titled “Man Tased For Speeding”. Yeah, those dirty cops just want to write you tickets and beat you up. And they dream of the opportunity to shoot you. Even with a video, it’s sad how many people didn’t pick up on the fact that after the guy was out of the car, he wouldn’t take his hands out of his pockets and was only tased after attempting to flee the traffic stop.

I’m not happy how dumbed-down FR has been getting lately.


69 posted on 01/15/2016 11:06:13 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Death before disco.)
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To: SZonian

“People don’t want to learn, they want to quibble, they want to denigrate...they’re not interested in learning the facts.”

They read an article somewhere that confirmed their bias and they want to sound smart. Debating the pros and cons of a weapon system can be fun. But as soon as some starts throwing around hyperbole like ‘total failure’ the there is no intelligent discourse going on. Even the infamous Brewster Buffalo was not a ‘total failure’.


76 posted on 01/15/2016 1:09:23 PM PST by TalonDJ
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Plus, it’s a “gray” program...some you get to hear about, some you don’t...and the media makes damn sure you hear about anything negative.

You called that. There's a poster above hollering at me that the F-35 can't make a such-and-such turn that the F-15 and F-16 can, it can't do this, it can't do that. The capabilities are classified, so how the hell does he know that? At that point, I didn't reply and had already left the thread in disgust. It doesn't mean I know everything, but I've worked in military aviation as an aerospace engineer for the last 20 years. Trying to have an intelligent discussion with people who only read headlines and the first paragraph of any article or who only want to quote the NY Times to you is the fool's errand. Throw in nostalgic emotion about their favorite jet growing up and you might as well be herding 100 cats.

77 posted on 01/17/2016 2:21:55 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Death before disco.)
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