Posted on 01/13/2016 4:25:57 PM PST by TBBT
It is hard not to feel protective over Donald Trump while the political classes are seething and scornful.
They are unacquainted with such powerlessness. Control was never supposed to stray this far from their grasp. And their rage, manifested in every hapless attack on Trump and his supporters, actually seems to be improving the likelihood of that outcome they fear most of all.
How tempting, under these circumstances, to rush to his defense, as so many in the conservative movement have already done. The Donald has boldly made himself a standard bearer of unpopular (…within the political bubble), yet critical policy positions concerning national security, from the urgency of immigration enforcement to the potential implications of refugee resettlement.
He has played a pivotal role in dragging these and other issues from the shadows that the media might otherwise have not been so quick to shine a light on. He has made the case against birthright citizenship, spent countless campaign hours pledging to build a wall, and talked tough to the politically correct mafia at a time when its fascistic influence has left millions of citizens feeling voiceless.
Trump’s style and substance—brazen, unapologetic and quite popular—have upended equanimity on the left, leaving the “public intellectuals†screaming over one another to denounce his absurdity, the effrontery, the horror.
(Excerpt) Read more at conservativereview.com ...
LOL.....you’re soon going to have to learn to say and type PRESIDENT TRUMP ! :-)
“learn to say and type PRESIDENT TRUMP...”
Don’t hold your breath on that. Remember Trump is the ONLY candidate that the RCP polls average shows will LOSE to Hillary and these baseless attacks by Trump are alienating a large part of the conservative base that supports Cruz. Trump can NOT win without those conservatives.
OTOH, I something YOU don't know. LOL
“quoting OPINIONS”
What opinions???? These are documented FACTS!!
Poll Date Clinton (D) Trump (R) Spread
RCP Average 12/16 - 1/7 44.6 42.6 Clinton +2.0
Poll Date Cruz (R) Clinton (D) Spread
RCP Average 12/16 - 1/7 46.3 44.5 Cruz +1.8
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_cruz_vs_clinton-4034.html
It looks like Trump is falling fast. Trump is now down at 35%, while Cruz has increased to 19% and we’re not even talking about the lowest polling candidates that could boost Cruz when they drop out.
Poll Date Trump Cruz Rubio Carson Spread
RCP Average 1/4 - 1/10 35 19 11.3 8
Trump +16.0
Here is the PROOF on Trump’s liberal positions too, but I’m sure you will duck and dodge these FACTS and instead resort to more name calling, mocking, or avoiding:
FROM TRUMP’S BOOK ‘The America We Deserve’. TRUMP WROTE: “The Republicans walk the NRA line and refuse to even limited restrictions. I generally oppose gun control, but I support the ban on assault weapons and I also support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun.”
When asked by Ammoland if Trump still supports this position, Trump artfully dodged the question and only claimed (THIS IS ANOTHER DIRECT QUOTE) that he “still generally opposes gun control”Â.
ANOTHER DIRECT QUOTE FROM A TRUMP INTERVIEW: Trump recently claimed that “assault” weapons should be banned by stating, “who needs them except criminals and police?”Â
HERE IS TRUMP’s 2012 Presidential position:
Trump believes that assault weapons should be banned, “who needs them except criminals and police?”
• He wants a longer waiting period for hand guns, rifles and shotguns. We should be able to tell within 72 hours if a person has a record or mental issues that would prohibit ownership.
http://2012.presidential-candidates.org/Trump/Gun-Control.php
BELOW IS TRUMP’S 2012/2013 PRO-AMNESTY DOCUMENTED STATEMENTS:
“Romney’s crazy policy of self deportation cost him the Latino vote and the Republican party in general needs to take care of this incredible problem that we have with respect to immigration, with respect to people wanting to be wonderful productive citizens of this country.”Â
“Whether intended or not, comments and policies of Mitt Romney and other Republican candidates during this election were seen by Hispanics and Asians as hostile to them, Trump says.
“Republicans didn’t have anything going for them with respect to Latinos and with respect to Asians”, the billionaire developer says.
The Democrats didn’t have a policy for dealing with illegal immigrants, but what they did have going for them is they weren’t mean-spirited about it,” Trump says. “They didn’t know what the policy was, but what they were is they were kind.”
So you’re saying that you “know†Trump has changed his position in last 2 years on just about every topic except
BELOW IS TRUMP’S PRO-SOCIALIZED SINGLE PAYER POSITION FROM 09/27/2015:
Pelley: How do you fix it?
Trump: There’s many different ways, by the way. Everybody’s got to be covered. This is an un-Republican thing for me to say because a lot of times they say, No, no, the lower 25 percent that can’t afford private. But”
Pelley: Universal health care.
Trump: I am going to take care of everybody. I don’t care if it costs me votes or not. Everybody’s going to be taken care of much better than they’re taken care of now.
Pelley: The uninsured person is going to be taken care of. How? How?
Trump: They’re going to be taken care of. I would make a deal with existing hospitals to take care of people. And, you know what, if this is probablyâ€
Pelley: Make a deal? Who pays for it?
Trump: â€the government’s gonna pay for it. But we’re going to save so much money on the other side. But for the most it’s going to be a private plan and people are going to be able to go out and negotiate great plans with lots of different competition with lots of competitors with great companies and they can have their doctors, they can have plans, they can have everything.
HERE ARE SOME MORE PRO-SOCIALIZED SINGLE-PAYER QUOTES FROM TRUMP:
• “If you can’t take care of your sick in the country, forget it, it’s all over. ... I believe in universal healthcare,†Trump told CNN’s Larry King in October 1999.
• “I would put forth a comprehensive health care program and fund it with an increase in corporate taxes, “ Trump told The Advocate right before he dropped out of the race in February 2000.
• “The Canadian plan also helps Canadians live longer and healthier than America. … We need, as a nation, to reexamine the single-payer plan, as many individual states are doing,†Trump writes in his 2000 book The America We Deserve.
While bantering with David Letterman on Jan. 8, 2015, Trump voiced admiration for Scotland’s publically funded health care system and suggested that the problem with the Affordable Care Act is its implementation.
TRUMP SUPPORTED SINGLE-PAYER SOCIALIZED MEDICINE EVEN IN THE DEBATES FOR THIS ELECTION CYCLE:
Trump responded: “As far as single payer, it works in Canada, it works incredibly well in Scotland.”
So please forgive us if we don’t all drink the Trump koolaid, but it is very hard to believe that Trump has changed nearly EVERY SINGLE LIBERAL position that he has held for the last 30 years, including positions that he has held ON RECORD as recently as 2012, 2013, 2015, AND 2016. Trump is a fraud, but I know facts are irrelevant to Trumpsters because they “feel†and “know†and “believe†that Trump has changed. Trump is applying for a job and telling the gullible what they want to hear. He is a LIAR and a SHAM!
ROTFLMSO...
POOR BABY !
“POOR BABY”
That is what I thought. You give the typical LIBERAL response. You resort to childish tactics when you can’t debate the FACTS and the PROOF. No wonder you’re supporting a liberal like Trump! Maybe you should return to DU. I think they’re missing their village idiot.
Do you realize how silly you look ranging through the threads and every 2 or 3 minutes scrawling pathetic taunts?
https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/01/trumps-questionable-political-history
In comes Donald Trump who literally wrote “the Art of the Deal†and is cognizant of what his prospective consumers want to purchase. He offers them the red meat. But is this really who Trump is on immigration and is this what to expect from a President Trump or even presidential nominee Trump?
We are not talking about positions he has taken years ago before he became a Republican. In 2013, conservatives were fighting for dear life to oppose open borders, while Trump was not only supporting the Dream Act, but echoing the liberal politically correct talking points behind it. In August of 2013, he reportedly told a group of illegal aliens, “You have convinced me†of the need to pass the Dream Act.
This was not a one off. Even after announcing his presidential bid, Trump continued to promote the false talking points about our responsibility to do something for the countries and families that violated our sovereignty:
“We’re going to do something. I’ve been giving it so much thought, you know you have a — on a humanitarian basis, you have a lot of deep thought going into this, believe me. I actually have a big heart.…I mean, a lot of people don’t understand that, but the DREAMers, it’s a tough situation, we’re going to do something, and one of the things we’re going to do is expedite — when somebody’s terrific, we want them back here, but they have to be legally.”
At best, it sounds like talking out of both sides of one’s mouth; at worst, it’s an embrace of the reasoning used by President Obama and his advocates for the Dream Act and executive amnesty.
https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/01/trumps-questionable-political-history
On September 8, 2015, Trump said the following about the Syrian refugees: “I hate the concept of it, but on a humanitarian basis of what’s happening, you have to.â€
https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/01/trumps-questionable-political-history
In one of the biggest ironies of this political cycle, Trump has long praised Mitch McConnell, the man who is the embodiment of why people are fed up with the party and attracted to Trump in the first place. While conservatives were fighting to get rid of McConnell in the 2014 primaries, Trump said, “It would be a shame if he didn’t win, because he has such power, it’s so good for his state.”
What caused Trump’s “come to Jesus” moment and when was it? was he on the road to Damascus?
He thought Obama was the cat’s meow not long ago
https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/01/trumps-questionable-political-history
Trump has often been ambivalent when discussing the courts. Kim Davis being thrown in jail by a lawless federal court was a watershed event in American history for religious liberty. It was also a defining moment for the candidates. Trump said the following on September 8, while Davis was sitting in jail for being a Christian:
“We had a ruling from the Supreme Court and we are a country of laws and you have to do what the Supreme Court ultimately, whether you like the decision or not, and it was a 5-4 decision, whether you like the decision or not, you have to go along with the Supreme Court. That’s the way it is.”
A few months later, Trump attacked Scalia, saying he was being “very tough†on “that community†for poking legal holes in the arguments for affirmative action for black students. What happened to the man who hates political correctness and the elites?
Isn’t it fair to ask what sort of judges he would appoint? He seems to strongly vouch for his sister’s ability as a judge on the Third Circuit Court of appeals, even though she is a radical leftist.
https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/01/trumps-questionable-political-history
n his book, The America We Deserve, although Trump eschewed outright bans on guns, he echoed Hillary’s talking points about the need to support common sense restrictions.
“The Republicans walk the NRA line and refuse even limited restrictions. I generally oppose gun control, but I support the ban on assault weapons and I also support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun.”
In a 1999 interview Trump was asked by Larry King whether he supported the NRA position against expanded background checks. Here is what he had to say:
“Yes, yes, no, I favor — I favor you have to go through a process, but the fact is that the bad ones already have one, and they’re not going to go through a process either; they’re not going to go through any process. Look, there’s nothing I like better than nobody has them, but that’s not going to happen”
https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/01/trumps-questionable-political-history
Obamacare is the ultimate tool to transform our economy. Republicans lost an election in 2012 by nominating the one man in the world who thought of the Obamacare scheme before Obama did, thereby taking our best issue off the table during the general election. Given Trump’s support for single-payer in the past and the fact that he still has not yet disavowed it, are Republicans prepared to nominate the one man who agrees with it during an election against the woman who originally promoted socialized medicine?
https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/01/trumps-questionable-political-history
Fox News, along with a cohort of ratings-seeking bedfellows, has played on the strengths of the Trump anomaly and has arguably been the main cause for his meteoric rise in the polls. Trump has made his personality a central figure in this contest and the media has indulged him, belying the self-important pundit entreaties to focus on the issues and make them answer tough questions. Perhaps in seeking to spotlight his crassness and precipitate his downfall, the opinion kings have spared him any serious inquisition whatsoever.
You completely ignore my statement (on many occasions) that I plan on voting Cruz in the primary
Consequently everything else you blather on about is nonsense and lecturing.
Don’t bother.
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“I did notice you were voting for Cruz and so am I.”
Please re-read post #147. I explicitly acknowledge that you are voting for Cruz.
Everything else that I posted are issues of serious concern that should be vetted about Trump even though it was all probably over your head. Just because you prefer to keep you head in the sand, don’t get upset because the rest of us won’t.
Mitt Romney was savaged on FreeRepublic for little more than what exists in Trump's record.
I'm aware he was a businessman, not a politician. I know people can change over time. I recognize that his love of country may outweigh his expediency for business purposes.
I also understand that Trump's rough & ready persona and evident relish in shattering PC icons is as attractive to his followers -- as Romney's cultivated mien was to the political elite.
But, as Duke points out, isn't it FReepers' duty to vet Trump on these questions, just as we vetted Romney...and found him wanting.
For example, is Trump's political philosophy really any more conservative than Romney's was?
I suppose that depends on whether or not you believe him when he says "they've all gotta go!"? Or whether you believe him when he says "I hope they all come back"?
Same with the Syrian "refugees".
I can't hold "Kelo" against him. He's a developer, what view would you expect him to have?
Do you believe the Trump that's going to "bomb the $hit of ISIS"? Or the one that wants to limit collateral damage?
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