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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If cruz being born in Canada is OK with everyone than why did we have the birther movement trying to prove Obama wasn’t eligible based on his supposed birth in kenya?


5 posted on 01/09/2016 11:27:11 PM PST by South Dakota (Two US citizen parents not one)
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To: South Dakota

Because his mother was too young to confer citizenship. You don’t recall that detail? Cruz’s mother was old enough.


7 posted on 01/09/2016 11:28:36 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ 2016)
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To: South Dakota
If cruz being born in Canada is OK with everyone than why did we have the birther movement trying to prove Obama wasn’t eligible based on his supposed birth in kenya?

The contention with Obama was that his mother was too young to confer citizenship under the law at the time. Thus, if he was born in Kenya, he would not be a citizen.

Of course, there were at least a couple of problems with this line of argument:

  1. He actually was born in Honolulu (PDF layers notwithstanding). Thus, he was a 14th Amendment citizen, independent of the nationalities of his parents, and natural born because he was a citizen by birth.
  2. Even if he was born outside the US, his momma was unmarried, so the law didn't apply: she could confer citizenship, despite her age. Of course, she thought she was married, but her marriage was invalid under Hawaiian law, being bigamous — horndog BHO, Sr., already had a wife in the old country! And Anarchist Annie was just a bitch in heat!

Shortly after Obama was elected, birferism took a strange turn away from the factual and towards the legal. (First argue the facts. But if the facts don't suffice, then argue the law.) The birfers were getting nowhere with the born-in-Kenya argument, so they instead tried to argue that NBC means more than citizen by birth (it doesn't). In this regard, they trotted out the theories of an obscure Swiss legal theorist, Emmerich de Vattel, in order to contend that NBC requires both parents to be American even if the kid is already American due to being born in Honolulu ...

Now the birfers are caught. To be consistent, they have to argue that Cruz is not a NBC, which position plays into the hands of the 'Rats and the GOPe. Consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds! They need to admit they were wrong all along and dissipate!

20 posted on 01/09/2016 11:54:10 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: South Dakota

“If cruz being born in Canada is OK with everyone than why did we have the birther movement trying to prove Obama wasn’t eligible based on his supposed birth in kenya?”

You are taking the actual controversy out of context and as misdefined by the left. The truth is that if Obama had been born in Kenya he would be a NBC, but the lies about where he was born and the subsequent coverup would have made him unelectable.


108 posted on 01/10/2016 7:42:46 AM PST by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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