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To: Cold Heat
-- I read all that some time ago, and my memory may be a bit vague however I recall that Indian nation citizenship was indeed carved out and allowed but they were encouraging them to pledge their allegiances to the United states and the natural born citizen was the legal out for them to accomplish this. --

If they're natural born into this country and out of their Indian nation, there is no "pledging" involved.

See Elk v. Wilkins, 112 U.S. 94 (1884) for a little bit. I don't know much about the details of citizenship of Indians in the US, nor do I recall much about the Elk case, but the syllabus opens with "An Indian, born a member of one of the Indian tribes within the United States," and this Indian was not a NBC of the US, that's for darn sure.

416 posted on 01/11/2016 7:43:26 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

Indians not taxed were specifically excluded as far as I know from my reading.


417 posted on 01/11/2016 7:45:20 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Cboldt

You are correct...my bad...my confusion was caused by the 14th amendment language. When I investigated it over another matter, I now recall that the jurisdictional language was meant to exclude Indian nations for citizenship.

At the time I was studying it from the standpoint of freed slaves. Got them confused..”Subject to the jurisdiction thereof”.


420 posted on 01/11/2016 8:02:46 PM PST by Cold Heat
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