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To: shankbear

The issue is not whether Cruz is a citizen or not. He is a citizen, he is not a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN. There is a difference, like it or not.


22 posted on 01/09/2016 9:58:21 PM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: Duchess47

“The issue is not whether Cruz is a citizen or not. ....”

Cruz IS a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN, just like most of the USA.

Cruz, and most of us, are NATURAL BORN CITIZENS because we were citizens at birth.

You are confusing naturalized citizens with NATURAL BORN CITIZENS.

People become NATURALIZED citizens AFTER their birth.

Cruz and I, and maybe you, and most of the country never had to becom naturalized because we were already citizens right at our birth making most of us NATURAL BORN CITIZENS, eligible to be POTUS.


37 posted on 01/09/2016 10:34:23 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Duchess47

When will you people stop with the ignorance?

There are 2 classes of citizens mentioned in the United States Constituion and Statutory Law: Natural Born (i.e. Citizen at Birth, and Naturalized).

Ted Cruz was NEVER Naturalized because he was a Citizen at Birth. A Citizen at Birth is a Natural Born Citizen. There is NO other separate category. None. End of Story.

Here’s something I bet you can’t answer. Why did the Founders make the Residency Requirement for POTUS a measly 14 years? Using your logic, they are so concerned that an NBC MUST be born on US soil (you know, to prohibit dueling loyalites and such to other countries), but they didn’t seem to have a problem with an NBC born on US Soil who goes off and can grow up for most of the child/adult life in a foreign country where they are subject to acquire other customs and cultures, and then maybe 50 years later come back to the US and run for President. And that’s all fine and dandy with you. But a child born to an American citizen who grows up the bulk of their childhood and entire adulthood in the United States and has no other home country considerations is in your mind not a NBC simply because of the place of birth? But the Muslim teen that goes off to Syria and gets accustomed to Sharia law and decides to bring those customs back to the United States to live is ok to run for President as long as they have 2 Citizen parents?


60 posted on 01/09/2016 11:23:53 PM PST by parksstp ("Truth is NOT Rhetoric" - Sen. Ted Cruz (The obvious conservative choice for POTUS))
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To: Duchess47
He is a citizen, he is not a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN. There is a difference, like it or not.

The Naturalization Act passed by Congress in 1790 included the term "natural born", but the term was not defined. The Naturalization Act passed by Congress in 1795 REPEALED that passed in 1790 and DID NOT include the term "natural born".

Why is everyone stuck on a vague term in an Act that was repealed?

I've yet to see any legal document from Congress or the courts that defines "natural born", especially in the way you and others are interpreting it.

Please provide a legal document from a reputable source that supports your definition of "natural born".

109 posted on 01/10/2016 6:30:37 AM PST by randita
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