[John Valentine]

but he did hold that the type of law which Vattel wrote about was what was followed by the Framers in matters of citizenship.

There is no about about that whatsoever. I have argued myself hoarse in support of Vattel over the years.

But in 2016, that horse has been pronounced well and truly dead, and no amount of beating will revive her. In our era, natural born citizenship will be defined by statute in any way the legislature chooses.

[AmericanVictory]

Why don’t you try actually reading the opinions I mention. Somehow I find Story and Marshall, in their opinions, quite weighty. With that said, at this point the matter remains unresolved by a high court opinion.

[AmericanVictory]

Why don’t you try actually reading the opinions I mention. Somehow I find Story and Marshall, in their opinions, quite weighty. With that said, at this point the matter remains unresolved by a high court opinion.

[bushpilot2]

[Mollypitcher1]

But in 2016, that horse has been pronounced well and truly dead, and no amount of beating will revive her.
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Was that the attitude of our Forefathers a Valley Forge?
They had been beaten and driven by the enemy, even from New York. They wintered at Valley Forge, freezing and without food, but they persevered and crossed the Delaware to soundly whip the enemy and found a new resolve to continue fighting to the bitter end. Voila, The United States of America.