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To: Oklahoma

Those are the “old money” groups. There are some “new money” groups. I would add to the old group Pat Buchanan conservatives.

The further away we get from “the day” of the “old money” groups, the more they mutate into something else. You can trace their history back, but they don’t look much like their forefather.

Combining our groups:

Establishment: Rockefeller, Cheney
Trump: Buchanan, mutated Goldwater, Angry untitled group, Revolutionaries as described below
Constitutional Conservatives: Buckley, Helms, Goldwater

Within those, I would add some “new money” groups.

Within the overall, I would add a faction of spies and revolutionaries out to destroy or at least fundamentally alter the party. They set up phony “Republican” groups with a liberal title (Log Cabin Republicans, etc.).

“Old money” “New money” could be “old mint” “new mint.” Just a borrowed term to convey an idea.


79 posted on 01/09/2016 2:56:04 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

The evolution of political movements and parties is interesting to study. A strain of progressivism existed in the Republican party from the beginning and it took over the party in the Lincoln, Grant and Roosevelt administrations. Taft, Harding and Coolidge represented the Conservative wing of the party after Teddy before Hoover took the party left again.

Robert Taft represented the right in the forties and fifties but he wasn’t the Conservative that would come later. Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, Bush I, Dole, Bush II, McCain and Romney were all eastern internationalist hawks but most were weak domestically. I think it says a lot that George W. Bush was probably the most Conservative of that group.

If Trump gets the nomination he will be another of those eastern establishment types and I expect would resemble Nixon or Ford if elected.

I haven’t even mentioned the radical middle. George Wallace, John Anderson, Ross Perot, Pat Buchanan and now Trump all seemed to have appealed to the same group of voters. They may appear to be conservative on some issues and moderate or even liberal on others. Dig deep enough on a Trump supporter and you’ll find a Perotista.


83 posted on 01/09/2016 3:33:32 PM PST by Oklahoma
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