[Mariner]

"My only fear is that they survive as a party. Lets hope they don’t."

First, the GOP must die.

Everything else comes after that.

[Norm Lenhart]

If people would have listened to that simple logic 6 years ago once we all had our noses rubbed in it good and hard, we would not be in this mess today.

[Mariner]

After the death of the GOP, we can choose to build a new party from the ashes, or we can form a new party from whole cloth.

But any notion this "faction" will get with the program of the GOPe should one of them win, is delusional. While they talk about coming over to our way of thinking (spineless bastards, still), if we win the White House, we don't waste our energy thinking about how to accommodate them.

And never will.