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To: MamaTexan

That’s because natural born and citizen at birth are exactly the same thing. I keep asking to be shown sources where more than two categories of citizenship are cited.

Please provide a reputable legal source which lists the following three unique categories of citizenship with their definitions and how they are obtained: 1) natural born, 2) birthright, and 3) naturalized. I am particularly interested in the particulars of 1).

If you provide that, I will admit that I have been wrong about this all along.


179 posted on 01/08/2016 3:03:46 PM PST by randita
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To: randita
That's because natural born and citizen at birth are exactly the same thing.

No, if they were the same thing the Founders wouldn't have used the term Natural born as a requirement for Presidential eligibility. They would have used the same term as they did for all of the others - citizen of the United States.

I keep asking to be shown sources where more than two categories of citizenship are cited.

I never said there were more than two.

If your citizenship status has to be determined by a law, you're naturalized, not natural born.

And no, I won't sort through and define anything to your satisfaction. The burden of proof is for you to come up with a law that uses the term 'natural born' since that's what the Constitution requires.

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BTW - Wong Kim Ark, the benchmark derision that supposedly created a 'native' born citizen when someone is born here of foreign parents said-

A person born out of the jurisdiction of the United States can only become a citizen by being naturalized, either by treaty, as in the case of the annexation of foreign territory, or by authority of congress, exercised either by declaring certain classes of persons to be citizens, as in the enactments conferring citizenship upon foreign-born children of citizens,..

With few exceptions, being born in a another country means you're born outside the jurisdiction of the United States.

187 posted on 01/08/2016 3:27:37 PM PST by MamaTexan (I am a person as created by the Las of Nature, not a person as created by the laws of Man.)
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