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To: DiogenesLamp

God Bless you. Perhaps you can find someone else to play with your straw-man arguments.

I’ll stick with what they wrote down on their legal documents.

If you find where they made a different explanation or definition, I would like to see it.


135 posted on 01/08/2016 12:29:30 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney
God Bless you. Perhaps you can find someone else to play with your straw-man arguments.

My point was that they were not confused. They considered various terms axiomatic. "Arms" were known primarily as guns, and therefore required bullets, and so there was no need to explicitly define the characteristics of what was common knowledge of the time.

In the same manner, they knew what the meaning of "natural born citizen" was in 1787 because it was built on the same philosophical foundation as the nation itself was built upon. The very word "Citizen" is a clue as to what that philosophical foundation was. They explicitly chose not to use the word "Subject" to describe the people of the United States, though that was the normal term they inherited from the British common law. Where did they get the idea to use this word "Citizen" (which is from French and meant "City Dweller" up until the 14th century. *) to describe nationals?

When writing the Declaration of Independence, Jefferson initially wrote the word "Subject" and then rubbed it out and changed it to "Citizen."

* Gee. I wonder what could have happened in the 14th century that could have triggered this change in the meaning of this French word?

153 posted on 01/08/2016 1:06:35 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: thackney
If you find where they made a different explanation or definition, I would like to see it.

I have something very close to this, but alas, not exactly this.

155 posted on 01/08/2016 1:07:45 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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